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Message: [QUOTE="SEABEE08FX4, post: 313840, member: 56"] Last time I looked at a fram filter they were slightly shorter ( hence why motorcraft came out with the videos of other brands vs there brand and how they didn't fully seat on the drain valve in the oil bowl to close it ) , unless something of recent has changed I don't think they are the same. Also going off of your picture it looks like there are more pleats and tighter pleats on the Motorcraft one than the fram one. Did I just blow your mind ? [/QUOTE]

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