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Message: [QUOTE="6.7Bison, post: 1543411, member: 32432"] Great discussion here guys! I hadn't seen his testing but again good to know my hypothesis of ambient like underhood temperatures seems to be confirmed by others. I'm just going through the paces to make sure my upgrade is indeed an upgrade in all the areas I want it to be. I agree with you here and can dive into the math to support it. My only counter point is that the intercooler isn't perfect. While it takes out a lot of heat from the air it will never take all of it out. In fact the higher the temperature in the higher the temperature out. The turbo has the same effect. So in theory in order to have the highest density possible for any setup you want to keep out as much additional heat as possible from start to finish. In the real world the lost density of a 20 degree difference in ambient to intake temperature may not be a whole lot different at the cylinder and may not even be noticeable to the average person. Especially if you increase volume and decrease pressure drop at the same time. But sometimes I live in my own world... :morons: That's what I'm looking for! I've heard of a few tricks drag racers use to get manifold air temperature below ambient but they aren't exactly feasible for a daily driver... Circling back to the main thread topic, I did get the intake installed yesterday. Just need to organize my thoughts, data, and pictures. [/QUOTE]

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