smogging with injectors

[06-sixoh]

Any of you guys smogging your truck in california with injectors? Seems like my next step, after studding, are injectors. Im not sure how much I can get away with, and Im surely not pulling the injectors every two years. Once there are in, they are staying.

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

I think you can get away with any injectors as long as your tuner can detune them to not smoke while getting the smog test done. Talk to your tuner.

The test is only visual so if no smoke comes out the pipe, you should be fine...

 

[06-sixoh]

I guess that makes sense. I wonder if it will be driveable, at least to the corner, so I could reprogram.

I think my next step is to delete EGR, studs and cam, and hopefully injectors.

How big injectors can I run, and still be effective with stock turbo? I thought I had a grasp on 6.0 performance, but the more I build, the more questions I have. LOL And the less money I have

 

[Triple H]

Thought they sniffed diesels now? ( Nv and Ut do, just off the top of my head ) But I do know that big HP on large sticks with the proper tuning will meet all the required nonsense the fun nazis sample for.

 

[Triple H]

Commonly guys run a 190 because it gets the fuel in quick so temps and smoke don't get out of hand. A Powermax nicely compliments those or 155cc sticks.

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

I guess that makes sense. I wonder if it will be driveable, at least to the corner, so I could reprogram.

I think my next step is to delete EGR, studs and cam, and hopefully injectors.

How big injectors can I run, and still be effective with stock turbo? I thought I had a grasp on 6.0 performance, but the more I build, the more questions I have. LOL And the less money I have

Most tuners can de-tune a great amount and still make the truck drive-able. They can only up-tune as much as the injectors can flow.

I would also be careful deleting that EGR. That is one of the major things looked at for smog.

How big of injectors would you like to run?

Thought they sniffed diesels now? ( Nv and Ut do, just off the top of my head ) But I do know that big HP on large sticks with the proper tuning will meet all the required nonsense the fun nazis sample for.

Not here in Cali YET. It is still just visual.

 

[8inchstroker]

They sniff in AZ as well

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[06-sixoh]

Thanks for the info fellas.

As far as my EGR goes, I actually realistically want to do the bulletproof EGR and oil cooler.

I dont know how big injectors I want to run, because I dont know how much control I have over them. If I can run 155's with the stock turbo for awhile I might do that. Then turbo up later on to compliment the injectors.

Also, how will these injectors act when towing?

 

[Mdub707]

Back in the day 190's and a stock 03 turbo were the hot ticket. I'd still say you could put that big of an injector in with the stocker, but let your tuner know and they will pull some fuel out of them. Obviously they wont be running at full potential, but to put them in and save some money for a turbo or detune for emissions shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Jhaddox]

Pick the injector you want to use to meet your end goal, you can always have your tuner pull fuel for the time being until you can add the turbo set up you want


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[Cobra 19 & 54]

They sniff in AZ as well

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Only in Maricopa county and Pima county. I'm registered in apache county so no "fun police"!!!

 

[8inchstroker]

I did not know this^^

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[Cobra 19 & 54]

PO Box out of county is all you need!

 

[Justin@DP-Tuner]

PO Box out of county is all you need!

This is true. My truck is registered in Calaveras County so no smog for me.

 

[SSpeeDEMONSS]

This is true. My truck is registered in Calaveras County so no smog for me.

I need to do that so I can still stick a 12v in my 03.

Garrett

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[Wayne]

Commonly guys run a 190 because it gets the fuel in quick so temps and smoke don't get out of hand. A Powermax nicely compliments those or 155cc sticks.

:whs:
at high elevation I'd recommend 155's and a powermax to keep egt's in check on a vehicle that tows much. 190's can definitely be done, but it's a little more difficult to keep temps under control. FYI, without fuel supply upgrades (at least an airdog II) even 155's will drop your fuel pressure significantly.

 

[Triple H]

^ I didn't think to add anything about fuel.

Not to Hi-Jack, but I'll gather up and install my fuel system before I tear into the sticks. Seems like the best way to approach the order of upgrades just as food for thought for 06-sixoh.

 

[wetnsloppy4x]

:whs:
at high elevation I'd recommend 155's and a powermax to keep egt's in check on a vehicle that tows much. 190's can definitely be done, but it's a little more difficult to keep temps under control. FYI, without fuel supply upgrades (at least an airdog II) even 155's will drop your fuel pressure significantly.

Wayne, what do you consider the threshold for high altitude to be?

 

[06-sixoh]

Im glad I started this thread. Ive already learned some good stuff. If I were to add injectors, I think I would pobably go 155's. I plan to do quite a bit of tuning, so I might stay away formm 190's. To do it right, after studding and upgrading, I would have to do injectors turbo and FASS system all at once.

JBone... Weve got a cabin on the backside of Bear Valley Ski Resort. We go up there every year to ride our snowmobiles, and spend many weeks up there in the summer. So I spend a fair amount of time in higher elevations. BTW, the starbucks in oakdale is a routine stop for us before taking 26 mile road to hwy 4.

 

[Wayne]

Wayne, what do you consider the threshold for high altitude to be?

To be realistic anything above 3000 ft. and you start seeing noticeable differences between where you are, and near sea level. Like it or not though, 155's are a big jump over stock as far as power goes, so the idea of these being a small injector for a performance daily driver IMO is inaccurate. They should carry a guy at or near 500 rwhp with good air and fuel supply, so it comes down to perspective.