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Message: [QUOTE="Zmann, post: 394636, member: 2025"] If u guys get this pan and are not reusing the old oil you need 15 quarts to refill .. 14 put me at the cold mark when it was hot so I needed to open the 15th to top off I drained about 8 from the stocker so it's is about 7 1/2 more quarts I have noticed no cooler temps ,, but I never had a chance to compare towing or hills so I imagine normal operating temps weren't going to be less simply because the cooler bypass opens at 170* so my avg temp of 175 wasn't going to be affected by this pan i was able to transfer the big magnet out of the OEM pan but I had to shave some off one side of it to get it in past the tubes Installer tip ,, just like the stock pan .. loosely install a couple of bolts to hold the pan up then do the ones near the cross member that are a biotch to reach otherwise you likely be removing some to get the pan to wiggle enough to get those in [/QUOTE]

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