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Message: [QUOTE="INFRNL, post: 1568118, member: 9835"] I'm at 6500'. (short answer to second part is... when I first got them I thought they cleared up after fully warm and ran for a while but would haze as it started to cool after sitting. for the past several years, I would say there was still a slight haze eve after warmed up/ driven) With the 250/100's my truck would haze at idle forever unless I started driving it. I think the longest i've just let my truck idle from a cold start is 30 minutes and it typically gets to 140*. but I don't think it was always that way either. for the past couple years it will still haze even after up to temp, but it could be very faint. There are too many variables to properly explain it. cold start haze was excessive and extreme and enough to kill my bushes/ trees. Initially IIRC they behave similarly to the 205's and would clear up once fully warm but had a higher quantity of haze and fumes now with the 205/30's cold start haze can be quite a bit at first but starts clearing up after a few minutes. It will still haze until I drive it a couple/ few blocks; then it clears up for reference my 250/100's even after nearly 15 yrs have probably around 20-25k miles on them. New 205's have less than 1500mi. 250's are remanned FFD and 205's are new CNC fab Honestly, I thought these smaller injectors would nearly eliminate the haze completely but I guess it's normal for the 205's as well. Guess that's the nature of hybrids. You know what, now that I think about this; I think the change in my haze was after I had my engine rebuilt from windowing the block. anyway, I think I need bigger injectors like my 250/100's or 250/200's and a proper VGT turbo...or compounds [/QUOTE]