Turbo options

97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

So I'm lookin to get a new turbo for my dually. It's an 04 with stock sticks. Iv talked to barder a little bit and he suggests the 1.5 or stage 2 turbo. I'm stuck between barder, mtw, or buying a powermax. What has everyone run? A little run down on the truck is that it's a tow rig so I need to it not get too hot since I'll have 20k hooked to it on the weekends. I need a little room to grow with it since I would like to get a little bit bigger injectors for it at some point. Iv already got a built tranny and the egr stuff done. Just need to do studs this summer. So again I would like some insight as which turbo to run.

BARDER
MAD TURBO WERKS
GARRETT POWERMAX

And go!

Thanks guys!!!

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1fastTRX · Dec 24, 2013

I'm sorry, but did you say something? I was busy staring at your avatar! Lol

You can't go wrong with a powermax, but it will still have a cast wheel. I can't say enough good about Barder! I have his stage 2 with billet wheel. Max egt's are 1100ish on a race tune. I've only towed once and was about 8-10k (2wd f250 w/service body on a 16ft double axle trailer). Trailer had a tire running hot so I limited my speed to 55-60 mph. I couldn't tow in OD since rpm were so low (1500rpm; 35" tires and 3.73s), but it worked great! I couldn't break 1000 degrees going WOT uphills. Cruising egt's were 800-900 depending on hill. I actually stopped looking at the gauge since it never got out of control. Im guessing you already have 4.10s being a dually? If so I would jump at the stage 2. I don't know if MTW has been able to improve turnaround time or QC lately so I won't go beyond that about them.

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97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

Wow that's the response I was looking for. If I did go with the pmax I would get the WW2 for it. Do you have stock sticks in it right now?

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1fastTRX · Dec 24, 2013

Yup. Stock sticks. I'd like to get bigger injectors, but that's pretty far down the road for me. With stock injectors this thing is still fun to drive

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97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

Hmmmm I'm torn for sure between the barder and pmax

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Derkperk · Dec 24, 2013

Very distracting. :drool:
I think you'll get a better value with the Barder. There are a lot of happy customers. The powermax is tried and true but you'll have to make the call.

97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

Yeah I don't remember what the prices are for each turbo

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Joshbaker · Dec 24, 2013

Haha man I'm trying to figure out pretty much the same thing right now. Only difference is I'm going to be running 190/75's or 190/100's.

Powerstroke214 · Dec 24, 2013

I vote barder stage 2.

I'm planning to do either an 03 turbo w/ a WW2(college budget), or a BTS stage 2 or a non VGT setup. But I'm not towing anything. I also plan to move up to a 175cc injector.

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HobbyStock62 · Dec 24, 2013

Barder stage 2. I have one and run stock fuel, pull ~12000lbs on the weekends and it does great.

ODAWG714 · Dec 24, 2013

I can vouche for 1fasttrx's truck, that ugly thing moves pretty darn fast.

And nice avatar btw lol

Mixedbreed · Dec 24, 2013

the Pmax doesnt flow that much more than stock even with a billet wheel. i have one and want something bigger. but it is a good stock replacment.

swinky · Dec 24, 2013

Powerstroke214 said:
I vote barder stage 2.

I'm planning to do either an 03 turbo w/ a WW2(college budget), or a BTS stage 2 or a non VGT setup. But I'm not towing anything. I also plan to move up to a 175cc injector.

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Something tells me I'm going to be a guinea pig for said setup lol

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Powerstroke214 · Dec 24, 2013

swinky said:
Something tells me I'm going to be a guinea pig for said setup lol

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No…:lookaround: what makes you think that!? LOL

Yea pretty much, I saw what you were planning and I was looking to do something similar, and you seem to have a head start lol

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swinky · Dec 24, 2013

You'll have the head start when I blow the fugger up. 220k miles lol

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swinky · Dec 24, 2013

Op what I think what we need to know is how big of an injector you're going to go with. If you want 155s I'm going to suggest a turbo for 175s. Cause that's what you'll most likely end up with lol sad but true.

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97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

I'll probably end up goin with a 175 since I tow heavy with it

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swinky · Dec 24, 2013

97BambiBasherPSD said:
I'll probably end up goin with a 175 since I tow heavy with it

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I think a 175 with a 30% nozzle would be a great injector. the 68 from barder should clean those up completely (probably overkill). Not sure how it would be towing and how the lag is. Maybe Oliver will chime in on that. Even then with a stage 2 I bet you could get a good cool tow file written and be mid 500s on a race file when you want to play. Reg return, guages....... all that jazz if you don't already have it.

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97BambiBasherPSD · Dec 24, 2013

I'm workin on the rr and gauges. Iv been leaning towards the 2 so I'm hopin that will do good with stock sticks for now. Anyone run it with stock sticks?

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swinky · Dec 24, 2013

1fastTRX said:
I'm sorry, but did you say something? I was busy staring at your avatar! Lol

You can't go wrong with a powermax, but it will still have a cast wheel. I can't say enough good about Barder! I have his stage 2 with billet wheel. Max egt's are 1100ish on a race tune. I've only towed once and was about 8-10k (2wd f250 w/service body on a 16ft double axle trailer). Trailer had a tire running hot so I limited my speed to 55-60 mph. I couldn't tow in OD since rpm were so low (1500rpm; 35" tires and 3.73s), but it worked great! I couldn't break 1000 degrees going WOT uphills. Cruising egt's were 800-900 depending on hill. I actually stopped looking at the gauge since it never got out of control. Im guessing you already have 4.10s being a dually? If so I would jump at the stage 2. I don't know if MTW has been able to improve turnaround time or QC lately so I won't go beyond that about them.

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^^^ stock sticks

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