Won't start......help

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Nov 19, 2011

97 power stroke has icp, fuel pressure, cps is good. All fuses are good. No codes Won't start any ideas?

Patrick Feeley · Nov 20, 2011

White smoke when cranking? How was ICP checked? Cheers!

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 20, 2011

White smoke yes

AE was used to check it.

Thinking IDM could possibly of died

smokedout250 · Nov 20, 2011

Ipr? Glow plug relay, battery's good?

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Curtis@Vision Diesel · Nov 20, 2011

Ipr is good just replaced the glowplug
Relay a couple days ago and batteries are all good

Tom S · Nov 20, 2011

Time to run KOEO and Buzz for some clues.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 20, 2011

Tom we went up to start digging into it deeper, were going to run some other tests but the truck started up no problem this morning.

I am 100% confused, we tried everything last night then randomly it fired today

SDS97_7.3 · Nov 20, 2011

Solenoid on the starter? Mine did kinda the same thing, replaced the solenoid and it was fine.

Tom S · Nov 20, 2011

Water in the IDM????

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 20, 2011

Well i suppose water could have gotten somewhere, but it was running perfectly fine....we took the chip out and put the chip back in, fired it up....shut it off, then randomly would not fire with or without chip. did everything we could and finally gave up, came back in the morning and it fired first try.

Very weird

SDS97_7.3 · Nov 20, 2011

Strokeorcroak said:
Well i suppose water could have gotten somewhere, but it was running perfectly fine....we took the chip out and put the chip back in, fired it up....shut it off, then randomly would not fire with or without chip. did everything we could and finally gave up, came back in the morning and it fired first try.

Very weird

Sounds just like when my solenoid went up. Easy to test and replace.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 21, 2011

SDS97_7.3 said:
Sounds just like when my solenoid went up. Easy to test and replace.

Really the solenoid thats bolted to the starter could cause it to not fire? It was spinning perfectly fine last night, just no fire

SDS97_7.3 · Nov 21, 2011

Yeah, at least thats what mine what doing. I had to replace the harness for the batteries, hooked it back up no start. Played with it for a while, pulled the starter my dad was going to the parts store so he took the starter with him to test and the solenoid was bad. Replaced it and it was fine.

And quick question incase I missed it. Is the starter turning over and it just wont fire, or are you getting nothing?

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 21, 2011

SDS97_7.3 said:
Yeah, at least thats what mine what doing. I had to replace the harness for the batteries, hooked it back up no start. Played with it for a while, pulled the starter my dad was going to the parts store so he took the starter with him to test and the solenoid was bad. Replaced it and it was fine.

And quick question incase I missed it. Is the starter turning over and it just wont fire, or are you getting nothing?

Starter is working awesome, it turns over perfect. Just wouldnt fire last night. This morning it fired up no problem

SDS97_7.3 · Nov 21, 2011

Ok misunderstood, a bit different than my original problem. Is it slow to crank?

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 21, 2011

SDS97_7.3 said:
Ok misunderstood, a bit different than my original problem. Is it slow to crank?

No it was turning just fine, it wsa on the battery charger! Its the most random thing ever honestly

SDS97_7.3 · Nov 21, 2011

Huh, that is random. Had something like that happen the other day but mine cranked slower. It was the solenoid in the started sticking and staying engaged (need to lube it) and pretty sure water in fuel at the same time.

Derek@Vision Diesel · Nov 21, 2011

SDS97_7.3 said:
Huh, that is random. Had something like that happen the other day but mine cranked slower. It was the solenoid in the started sticking and staying engaged (need to lube it) and pretty sure water in fuel at the same time.

Yeah we will never know what happened, extremely random though. Only thing i can think of is we un hooked batteries for the night, and that might of reset things that were out of whack. Thats about the only explanation i can think of

Curtis@Vision Diesel · Nov 21, 2011

Strokeorcroak said:
Yeah we will never know what happened, extremely random though. Only thing i can think of is we un hooked batteries for the night, and that might of reset things that were out of whack. Thats about the only explanation i can think of

Yea you go that right. Extremely Random!! So far so good tho. Has started and drove flawless. ??????? Still confused oh why or what was going on.

onebad7.3 · Nov 21, 2011

My truck wouldn't start sometimes a while ago, the engine would turn fine, but wouldn't start, turn the key off, then back on and it would start every time.
Is that what yours is doing? or won't it start the second time either?