valve spring options

blaze42069 · Apr 29, 2014

caladash said:
Anyone have a part number for these Beehives?

After a little research this is what I found. If they are wrong #'s someone please correct me.
This is my next mod coming up so I hope these are right!

Beehive springs. # 26120-16
Locators. #4696-16
Retainers. #795-16
Super Valve Locks #617-16

B.A.D Performance · Apr 29, 2014

Thought I read on another thread the locators do not fit the head. And to just use the stock one

blaze42069 · Apr 29, 2014

B.A.D Performance said:
Thought I read on another thread the locators do not fit the head. And to just use the stock one

Thats the confusing part. I have heard that too, but others claim to have used the CC locators. So someone please chime in and help us out.

dentexpowerstroke · Apr 29, 2014

http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45156

blaze42069 · Apr 30, 2014

Magnum PD said:
The kit that I got, it came with locator seats. You could use the stock locator seats that have the seals with them. I felt that there was too much slack verses the new locators. Just had to get additional seals. Chevy small block valve seals.

Is the seat pressure around 175 lbs?

So you used the CC locators? Got a part # for those chevy valve seals? And Dentex you used the stock seat with oem valve seals and a shim kit? So sounds like theres a couple options to install these, is that right?
This is the confusing part right here. But atleast we're getting somewhere.

dentexpowerstroke · Apr 30, 2014

Yeah, I have them installed and the stock seats work. I even have had the motor apart since the initial install and everything was still looking good even after several times of being at ~4500rpm.

Crowerstroke02 · Apr 30, 2014

dynoproven has worked with crower to develop a set that is straight drop in NO machining required! I know im going to get ridiculed for noit having any specs on them but im sure Jason or Jonathon can supply the specs. I think a set is roughly 1200 with pushrods.

blaze42069 · Apr 30, 2014

Thanks Dentex, I'm gonna go your route, appreciate the help.:toast:

Magnum PD · Apr 30, 2014

$1200 for pushrods and springs?

smokinstroker92 · Apr 30, 2014

Crowerstroke02 said:
dynoproven has worked with crower to develop a set that is straight drop in NO machining required! I know im going to get ridiculed for noit having any specs on them but im sure Jason or Jonathon can supply the specs. I think a set is roughly 1200 with pushrods.

Thats a joke 1200 is way over priced. You can get the springs and heavy wall pushrods from swamps for $750 i think and do not require any machining. All these springs are basically beehives anyway they can say they work with who ever all they want to they are all the same.

B.A.D Performance · Apr 30, 2014

1200 is damn near a set of injectors

Short Bus · Apr 30, 2014

1200? Uhh wtf

JD3020 · Apr 30, 2014

Their T4 kits with a 468 lists for $4500. So $1200 for a set of springs wouldn't shock me too much.

Short Bus · May 1, 2014

Comp cams beehive springs are on summit racing, iirc under 300 bucks.

Crowerstroke02 · May 1, 2014

yeah 1200 is high I don't disagree I was told dyno proven and dp are working to get it much lower than 1200

smokinstroker92 · May 1, 2014

They better work on it because that's bull ****. They are marking that way up! All the springs are the same

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Crowerstroke02 · May 1, 2014

Jonathon says it has to do with the first 20 sets are going to be high because of the money involved in developing them from crower im not a 100% sure on any of the paper folds on that

caladash · May 1, 2014

So here is where I am confused...there are some that have used the 910's for a while and have had zero issues. Shimmed and not shimmed. Then there are others that have used them and have had issues. So what is the common denominator with all the ones that have had issues with 910s? Over revving, wrong shims? I just had my heads freshened up with new valves, seals and 910s. And brand new push rods from DI to go with them! Dont feel like doing it all over again!

TyCorr · May 1, 2014

Every truck is different. Every person drives and maintains their vehicle differently. Perhaps the assembly of the rotating mass and valve train are different. Some on the high and/or low side of the specs.

You also can't be certain that everybody is installing correctly and to the correct height.

I've been told by several people outside this forum that build motors to not use the 910s. That they are cheap and inconsistent. I don't honestly know enough to go against that sort of advice.

Maybe hotrod tractor will add his input. He built shortbus' motor and afaik, it's been in the truck and running for a long while.

Short Bus · May 1, 2014

Crowerstroke02 said:
yeah 1200 is high I don't disagree I was told dyno proven and dp are working to get it much lower than 1200

You can get comp cams beehive springs for 300-400 dollars from summit racing. What's so hard to get below 1200? If you are dead set on beating 1200, I will get you a set for 1149 plus tax, shipping, fuel surcharge, Friday discounted surcharge and .5 frequent flier miles for the easy price of 1488.