2023 HO 6.7 500HP 1200FTLB

Powerstroke Cowboy · Nov 20, 2022

superpsd said:
Yes but there is still massive demand to crack them and there will be people working it. It just may take a few years.

Agreed.

Maryland dieselnick · Nov 20, 2022

Gotchya

silent64 · Nov 24, 2022

Question, I'm confused. How does a cast aluminum exhaust manifold turn into stainless steel. Must be a new process i've never heard of !

Powerstroke Cowboy · Nov 24, 2022

silent64 said:
Question, I'm confused. How does a cast aluminum exhaust manifold turn into stainless steel. Must be a new process i've never heard of !

Question, where did you read this? Obviously, it cant.

sootie · Nov 24, 2022

i believe they are switching from cast steel (the way they've always been) to stainless construction

Powerstroke Cowboy · Nov 24, 2022

sootie said:
i believe they are switching from cast steel (the way they've always been) to stainless construction

That makes sense to me. One article claimed cast aluminum. That sounds off.

ToMang07 · Dec 1, 2022

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
That makes sense to me. One article claimed cast aluminum. That sounds off.

More likely tho.

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Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 1, 2022

ToMang07 said:
More likely tho.

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Time will tell.

RascalMafia · Dec 2, 2022

Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 3, 2022

So stainless manifolds it is. Make more sense than aluminum! Water cooled turbo housing. Did he say turbo, or turbine housing?

6.7Bison · Dec 5, 2022

I heard turbo housing in that video. The turbos on the 6.7 Powerstroke already have water cooled bearing housings on them so I'm almost certain they are talking about turbine housing cooling.

Water-cooled Turbine Housing / Water-cooled Turbo Exhaust Housing

Water-cooled turbine housing is usually applied for turbocharger for engines of equipment for coal mine, shale gas or oil field exploitation or boat engine.

otsturbo.com

Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 5, 2022

6.7Bison said:
I heard turbo housing in that video. The turbos on the 6.7 Powerstroke already have water cooled bearing housings on them so I'm almost certain they are talking about turbine housing cooling.

Water-cooled Turbine Housing / Water-cooled Turbo Exhaust Housing

Water-cooled turbine housing is usually applied for turbocharger for engines of equipment for coal mine, shale gas or oil field exploitation or boat engine.

otsturbo.com

Very interesting, I wonder why Ford would need to use it?

ToMang07 · Dec 5, 2022

6.7Bison said:
I heard turbo housing in that video. The turbos on the 6.7 Powerstroke already have water cooled bearing housings on them so I'm almost certain they are talking about turbine housing cooling.

Water-cooled Turbine Housing / Water-cooled Turbo Exhaust Housing

Water-cooled turbine housing is usually applied for turbocharger for engines of equipment for coal mine, shale gas or oil field exploitation or boat engine.

otsturbo.com

I was wondering about that myself.

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6.7Bison · Dec 6, 2022

I have two and a half semi-educated guesses. To bring down exhaust heat, to bring down an engine bay hot spot, or a bit of both. Stainless manifolds and cooled turbine housing may allow for higher sustained EGTs while still meeting OEM reliability standards of the exhaust system. I don't know if any of the emissions equipment has a "too hot" temperature range that could be a limiting factor on the current 6.7L powerstrokes. May at least help with some of the common warped manifolds and broken rear studs. By cooling the hot turbine housing sitting in the valley of the engine it may cool the ambient components such as the upper intake manifold and the compressor housing giving a slight gain in efficiencies. This one makes less sense to me personally as the complexities look to outweigh the benefits, but I don't always agree with OEM solutions.

Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 6, 2022

Sounds like a good guess to me. Being they have steel pistons they could be planning on hotter than normal exhaust Temps. They have the components in place to do it.

ToMang07 · Dec 7, 2022

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
Sounds like a good guess to me. Being they have steel pistons they could be planning on hotter than normal exhaust Temps. They have the components in place to do it.

"Hotter " does seem the trend on these newer trucks

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Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 7, 2022

ToMang07 said:
"Hotter " does seem the trend on these newer trucks

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How's your pickup been treating you? I take it yours runs hotter than you are used to seeing?

ToMang07 · Dec 7, 2022

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
How's your pickup been treating you? I take it yours runs hotter than you are used to seeing?

Yeah, I was shocked to see the tranny running over 200°F unloaded highway. They definitely run much hotter than the older motors. I'm interested to see how it does this winter plowing, especially with the 2 separate cooking systems.

10R140 Operating Temps - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2017 - 2022 Super Duty - 10R140 Operating Temps - So full disclosure... I have not towed anything heavy yet, nor driven with the plow in or plowed yet. That said, getting a baseline for normal I was a bit alarmed to to regularly see transmission temps above 200?. My 6R140 from my '17 almost...

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J98 · Dec 7, 2022

ToMang07 said:
Yeah, I was shocked to see the tranny running over 200°F unloaded highway. They definitely run much hotter than the older motors. I'm interested to see how it does this winter plowing, especially with the 2 separate cooking systems.

10R140 Operating Temps - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2017 - 2022 Super Duty - 10R140 Operating Temps - So full disclosure... I have not towed anything heavy yet, nor driven with the plow in or plowed yet. That said, getting a baseline for normal I was a bit alarmed to to regularly see transmission temps above 200?. My 6R140 from my '17 almost...

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I have driven a few of the 20+ L5P's unloaded. I don't know what they did differently but the temp gauge seems to stay pegged on 150*.

Seems almost too low.

Powerstroke Cowboy · Dec 7, 2022

ToMang07 said:
Yeah, I was shocked to see the tranny running over 200°F unloaded highway. They definitely run much hotter than the older motors. I'm interested to see how it does this winter plowing, especially with the 2 separate cooking systems.

10R140 Operating Temps - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

2017 - 2022 Super Duty - 10R140 Operating Temps - So full disclosure... I have not towed anything heavy yet, nor driven with the plow in or plowed yet. That said, getting a baseline for normal I was a bit alarmed to to regularly see transmission temps above 200?. My 6R140 from my '17 almost...

www.ford-trucks.com

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Thats interesting, I would have never have guessed it was that warm. I do understand why they are doing it. Warmer thinner fluids have less drag. So it should help with making the drive train more efficient. That intern should help with high MPGs, how much I have no clue.

Marks explanation make perfect sense though. In the sense of efficiency you can have to cool of fluids.