400/400 daily driver

hunterER7 · Jun 18, 2015

Powerstroke Racer said:
BTW I have an extra set of swamps 400/400's for sale

What's the price tag on those?

Strokersace · Jun 18, 2015

bruce said:
Those are 160/30 prices. Nate's are 1575 with 600 core, Tim's are 1595 with 800 dollar core.

I see your point there. Although I haven't checked Unlimited's site to verify the price you listed. What makes Tim's core worth $200 more? Does he not get as good of a deal when purchasing HIS secret squirrel chit as Nate does???

I'd still put hypermax's lowly 10 year old stage one's up against Tim's super secret 1.25's any day for a fraction of the cost.

Either way, this discussion won't go anywhere because we likely won't get anymore out of Tim other than what he has already passively done in nearly every thread he post in.

The topic at hand is daily driving 400/400's. Yes it can and has been done with proper tuning. David has some for sale, and could be someone's next dd injector.

Powerstroke Racer · Jun 18, 2015

hunterER7 said:
What's the price tag on those?

2500.00 exchange, still in original Swamps packaging.
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hunterER7 · Jun 18, 2015

Strokersace said:
I see your point there. Although I haven't checked Unlimited's site to verify the price you listed. What makes Tim's core worth $200 more? Does he not get as good of a deal when purchasing HIS secret squirrel chit as Nate does???

I'd still put hypermax's lowly 10 year old stage one's up against Tim's super secret 1.25's any day for a fraction of the cost.

Either way, this discussion won't go anywhere because we likely won't get anymore out of Tim other than what he has already passively done in nearly every thread he post in.

The topic at hand is daily driving 400/400's. Yes it can and has been done with proper tuning. David has some for sale, and could be someone's next dd injector.

THIS IS MY NEXT/FUTURE GOAL. TO BE ABLE TO DAILY DRIVE A 400/400 SET UP ON A MILD TUNE AND BE ABLE TO TURN IT UP AND RUN THE TRACK.

jwlandry · Jun 18, 2015

Powerstroke Racer said:
BTW I have an extra set of swamps 400/400's for sale

I Shoulda bought those.

Tim @ P.I.S. · Jun 18, 2015

Strokersace said:
No I don't think hypermax injectors are junk and did not day that....

Strokersace said:
all the junk hypermax injectors he's had apart,

Your words not mine:whs:

Strokersace said:
You say you don't bash on other companies, however you make passive comments like the above quote... Come on man, you're not even that good at trying to disguise it!! I have an ex that would run circles around your abilities at "not bashing a company" in a passive aggressive way. Lol!

Find one post where I bashed a company on this forum buddy, you will be looking for years. Never have I called out a single company here. There are several things I don't like that other companies do, from using used nozzles, to shimming armatures(yea it happens a lot more often than you know), to not even attempting to try and balance a set of injectors. But guess what, that's their way of doing business not mine. Are my products cheap? NOPE, because my products are not CHEAP. If you really had a clue of what we do you would realize what we have is a bargain.

Strokersace said:
You have all the answers because "you have been around a while" (your words, not mine). And you know what the secret squirrel magic is that's been holding us all back that no one is addressing. Yet you don't share, you don't elaborate, you just want us to "trust you" and all your knowledge, and buy your product. Buy YOUR pixy dust and get on YOUR bandwagon. Because you've been around a while and have all the answers...

I feel absolutely no obligation to share any of my processes, procedures, etc of what we do here. I do happily share some info with our customers that call up and need help putting together a package to do just what they want their truck to do. I'm pretty sure I will never give a minute of my time to someone that clearly has no purpose in life that try to knock down what good I try to do.

On a side note thanks to you guys for helping explain that really difficult pricing/core issue some could grasp.

Unfortunately I am one of a few people that can flawlessly understand the honor system. I have lost soo many sets of cores over the years trying to help guys out that just couldn't be down with their truck but really needed injectors to running again. I feel for they were on hard times and didn't have the funds for the core charge. Guess what, BAM, got me and never get my cores back. For that we either get $800 (because that's a # that gets cores back) or your cores up front, your choice you have options.

And before I go, another plug for Davids 400/400's, that's a deal for someone.

Powerstroke Racer said:
2500.00 exchange, still in original Swamps packaging.
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Good night ladies

elrodalexander73 · Jun 18, 2015

This is my thing, if an injector builder can build and test an injector that can deliver 400cc of fuel above 5500 rpm, I'd pay a price for it. I know Golfer has a some 7.3s now that are over 4 digit mark on fuel only, he won't tell but don't think they are gonna give up their secret stuff easily.. No one on here complains about Tims injectors idling funny or what not, and well most builders will stand behind most faulty injectors.. I drove my truck to full force in Mboro when I had idle issues, they delivered me 6 new tunes to my PHP that day and we messed with it free of charge for an hr in their shop and got it running smooth. We argue, bicker, and fight but all in all this chit is expensive, and most guy's who "build" injectors are truly craftsmen, whether it be a 7.3 huei monstrosity, or a P-pump or moding a CP3, the stuff is tricky and must be "right"... I don't dare criticize an injector builder because well this, I don't own a flow bench, two I've built maybe 15 injectors, and they were pop mechanical caterpillar junk, and three, it takes gobs of trial and error, TIME SPENT making absolutely NO money praying you build a product that will work. The risk involved is substantial, and god forbid if not one of these guys in the business ever said, why modify the 7.3 injector, it's pointless, just go mod a 12v it's cheaper, we do it for the love of the Ford supplied engine praying we will make stupid power someday.. Just my two bits..

lincolnlocker · Jun 18, 2015

that would be a international supplied engine.. it just comes in a ford.

live life full throttle

Strokersace · Jun 18, 2015

Tim @ P.I.S. said:
Your words not mine:whs:

Find one post where I bashed a company on this forum buddy, you will be looking for years. Never have I called out a single company here. There are several things I don't like that other companies do, from using used nozzles, to shimming armatures(yea it happens a lot more often than you know), to not even attempting to try and balance a set of injectors. But guess what, that's their way of doing business not mine. Are my products cheap? NOPE, because my products are not CHEAP. If you really had a clue of what we do you would realize what we have is a bargain.

I feel absolutely no obligation to share any of my processes, procedures, etc of what we do here. I do happily share some info with our customers that call up and need help putting together a package to do just what they want their truck to do. I'm pretty sure I will never give a minute of my time to someone that clearly has no purpose in life that try to knock down what good I try to do.

On a side note thanks to you guys for helping explain that really difficult pricing/core issue some could grasp.

Unfortunately I am one of a few people that can flawlessly understand the honor system. I have lost soo many sets of cores over the years trying to help guys out that just couldn't be down with their truck but really needed injectors to running again. I feel for they were on hard times and didn't have the funds for the core charge. Guess what, BAM, got me and never get my cores back. For that we either get $800 (because that's a # that gets cores back) or your cores up front, your choice you have options.

And before I go, another plug for Davids 400/400's, that's a deal for someone.

Good night ladies

Haha! Way to make your own quote there to help your cause! Well done. Unfortunately for you, my full post is available for all to read. Your attempt at trying to act like the mainstream media has fallen short.

Oh and thank you for continuing to prove my point about your passive aggressiveness. You tried hard to spin this all to make you appear like a victim. Typical passive aggressive maneuver...

Remember, I have an ex that would run circles around your abilities. But you can keep trying if you'd like.

elrodalexander73 · Jun 18, 2015

Lincoln Locker you get my jist lol... It's that whole thing where people are waiting for an injector that will "guarantee" them 800+ on fuel only lol.. Oh hell I need to go buy a 6.7 like you lol!!

DocBar · Jun 18, 2015

elrodalexander73 said:
This is my thing, if an injector builder can build and test an injector that can deliver 400cc of fuel above 5500 rpm, I'd pay a price for it. I know Golfer has a some 7.3s now that are over 4 digit mark on fuel only, he won't tell but don't think they are gonna give up their secret stuff easily.. No one on here complains about Tims injectors idling funny or what not, and well most builders will stand behind most faulty injectors.. I drove my truck to full force in Mboro when I had idle issues, they delivered me 6 new tunes to my PHP that day and we messed with it free of charge for an hr in their shop and got it running smooth. We argue, bicker, and fight but all in all this chit is expensive, and most guy's who "build" injectors are truly craftsmen, whether it be a 7.3 huei monstrosity, or a P-pump or moding a CP3, the stuff is tricky and must be "right"... I don't dare criticize an injector builder because well this, I don't own a flow bench, two I've built maybe 15 injectors, and they were pop mechanical caterpillar junk, and three, it takes gobs of trial and error, TIME SPENT making absolutely NO money praying you build a product that will work. The risk involved is substantial, and god forbid if not one of these guys in the business ever said, why modify the 7.3 injector, it's pointless, just go mod a 12v it's cheaper, we do it for the love of the Ford supplied engine praying we will make stupid power someday.. Just my two bits..

Best post in this thread.

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DocBar · Jun 18, 2015

400/400's are doable but the amount of tuning takes considerable patience.
I have my 400/200's ready to go out to be 400/400's at PIS.
The truck will be undergoing compound surgery at the same time and will be live tuned.

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Powerstroker7.3 · Jun 19, 2015

I was hoping to daily drive with a 72mm single. That just makes it that much harder

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Strokersace · Jun 19, 2015

Powerstroker7.3 said:
I was hoping to daily drive with a 72mm single. That just makes it that much harder

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You're not kidding. You just better plan on flying whoever is tuning it out to you for some seat time.

isootmypants · Jun 19, 2015

Powerstroker7.3 said:
I was hoping to daily drive with a 72mm single. That just makes it that much harder

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I've daily driven a 75.... Not anything but a haze goin uphill

hunterER7 · Jun 19, 2015

Powerstroke Racer said:
2500.00 exchange, still in original Swamps packaging.
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Man if i had the extra cash the moment id be all over these.

dieselmandustin · Jun 19, 2015

I'm running 300/400's with an s468 and I would not want a turbo any bigger! I think this one is pretty laggy.

PABowhunter · Jun 19, 2015

dieselmandustin said:
I'm running 300/400's with an s468 and I would not want a turbo any bigger! I think this one is pretty laggy.

That's gotta be in the tuning. My 468 isn't bad at all with 250/100's. It lights plenty quick.

02BigD · Jun 19, 2015

Powerstroker7.3 said:
I was hoping to daily drive with a 72mm single. That just makes it that much harder

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Is that the same one you have presently? I'd like to chat with you about the one you have now, if you want to PM me your number.

With a 72, do you believe you'll have enough air to take full advantage of the fuel? Are you planning on spraying it?

Powerstroker7.3 · Jun 19, 2015

This is the same 72mm that is in my sig. As of right now the injectors are out of the truck because of a broke nozzle. I was thinking about going bigger while they were out. Then upgrading the turbo later on down the road. This is why I made this thread

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