6.0.4 revisited

[Mdub707]

Not all 6.0's cycle the turbo vanes at idle either, that's just a certain strategy and it's fairly new.

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

I am not looking to make boost at idle. I am just curious if either vehicle does. I was thinking of using a electric diverter valve and a pnumatic actuator to move the veins, essentially the same setup as what the 6.0 uses but external of the turbo and using air instead of oil. I kind of doubt 5psi would be strong enough to move the veins anyhow.

Hotrodtractor,
For now I want to stick with the project at hand. When I get bored of this setup then I'll consider the next step. I am not after huge power achievements yet, I would like to see how the turbo's do with stock injectors (as a base line), see how they react off the line, what kind of numbers it will make stock etc. Then it will be on to larger injectors, based off of suggestions for cleanliness and egt's 190/100's or 205/50's, not sure just yet. Might not decide till I see what kind of temps I have with stock injectors...

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

So who wants to hear some good news????? I thought so....

I am nearing a prototype unit to controll the 6.4 VGT. It will eliminate the stock actuator of the 6.4 and connect directly with the 6.0 PCM just as the stock 6.0 actuator does. At this point it is just a matter of selecting the right parts and actuator motor and putting it all in the truck and calibrating.

I haven't been this excited since I bought my first p*rno

:toast:

 

[CCRICE]

So who wants to hear some good news????? I thought so....

I am nearing a prototype unit to controll the 6.4 VGT. It will eliminate the stock actuator of the 6.4 and connect directly with the 6.0 PCM just as the stock 6.0 actuator does. At this point it is just a matter of selecting the right parts and actuator motor and putting it all in the truck and calibrating.

I haven't been this excited since I bought my first p*rno

:toast:

Hell yeah man, glad to hear your making progress.

 

[Pizza pig]

Awesome man!! Shoot me a pm i may have some stuff in the works that may be up your alley!

 

[Lubbockguy1979]

Sweet keep up the good work

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

Actuation is still in the "R&D" phase but I am VERY confident that it will work. I will keep you guys posted as things progress. I'll be honest I am more concerned about relocating the alternator, mounting and draining the turbos, than I am about the actuation now.

 

[strokin6L]

interesting....keep us updated

 

[Cobra 19 & 54]

any automotive problem can be solved with two words;
Cubic Dollars


but screw the haters, do it and shut them up!!!

 

[b2™]

Sub'd

 

[Mdub707]

Sounds good man, hope you get it figured out! If this works, stock 6.4 turbos are going to skyrocket in price lol.

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

Mike,
On that note I have to ask the question... IF (yeah its still an if) I accomplish this and it proves to be worth it.
Would anyone be interested in doing this to their truck if I built a kit?

-Jon

 

[windrunner408]

I think it would all depend on what sort of performance you were able to get from a kit like this.

I would think it would have be both cost effective and give unheard of performance. JMO of course.

 

[FaSSt9602]

Cost effective might not be right...since you would have to buy a 6.4 manifold, new alternator bracket, turbos, and of course whatever means RealMuhcoy come up with for controlling the VGT, the cost/hp might not make sense. I still wish you luck! I have always liked the look of compounds tucked into the valley!

 

[Lubbockguy1979]

If you could first make this work, then possibly either mod the turbos to make them larger or work a setup that would some how get the higher airflow you would likely be in business. If as other have said you need to spend 2k to get to 600rwhp minus a fuel system and the other associated mods it isn't going to be very popular because of the cost.

 

[alwil]

What is the cost of compounds and supporting mods?

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

Ok, hypothetically speaking if this were to work and produce 550hp running 190/100's clean running and ready to tow. Then let's say the cost of an all inclusive kit possibly including tuning (not with injectors of course) is around $3000 is it worth it?

I know there are batmowheels for these but I'm not sure what good they will do. I don't know what the cost/benefit is with a batmowheel. from what I understand they help spool up, but isn't that what the high pressure turbo is for?

Jon

 

[windrunner408]

Ok, hypothetically speaking if this were to work and produce 550hp running 190/100's clean running and ready to tow. Then let's say the cost of an all inclusive kit possibly including tuning (not with injectors of course) is around $3000 is it worth it?...

Please Please Please dont take this as hating on this set up as that is certainly NOT what I am about here. I think it is GREAT and I applaud the effort of trying to make something work that no one said could be done (kind of makes me want to try a VGT compound system LOL). Nevertheless, I really dont think this will be a very marketable setup and the reason I say that is because it isn't a complete drop in like the stock turbo is. I will agree that it appears to have some performance potential and if there wasn't this huge development going on with large single VGT turbos, then I think this option would be more marketable. And while I can only speak for myself here, to me the large single VGT turbo that can drop into place and hook up just like the stock turbo, can support 620-660hp, can possibly used for towing (still have to see if this is in fact the case yet but am hoping the right tuning will make it possible), and costs about the same, just seems to good to pass up to me.

I hope this angle of perception makes sense. Again I still applaud your efforts and I truely hope you get it to work just to say I told you so and bust the myth to those who said you're wasting your time.

 

[TheReelMuhcoy]

So I talked to an acquaintance yesterday, who is very against this whole idea, who said that to have the truck tuned I would have to tow it to have it live tuned. Assuming my VGT controll idea does work out as planned and the PCM thinks it is controlling the stock turbo, do you guys think the truck will be "undrive-able" as he says?

I cannot see that the truck is going to run so poorly that it will be "undrive-able" before some live tuning. But maybe I am being foolish and not seeing the big picture yet. I would assume do a VGT relearn procedure and proceed from there.

 

[motoxracer42]

it wont be undriveable. even unplugged it will drive. it will be laggy and smokey so dont do it long but if your close to a tuner i would go for it. i am by no means a tuner and i dont do much work on 6.4s so i dont know what logic they work off of but if they say they can tune it to work then go for it.