Bad hpop???

Jaredkeller96 · Dec 7, 2013

96 f350, 160/100s, Wildman tunes, d66
Idles just above 500rpm but sometime it starts to cut out to about 400rpm, then back up, on high idle, 1100 then will miss out to about 1000, sounds like I'm running out of oil for the 160s.??

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mustube · Dec 7, 2013

Hook up a scanner or AE and check ICP and DC%

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Dec 7, 2013

Jaredkeller96 said:
96 f350, 160/100s, Wildman tunes, d66
Idles just above 500rpm but sometime it starts to cut out to about 400rpm, then back up, on high idle, 1100 then will miss out to about 1000, sounds like I'm running out of oil for the 160s.??

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What kind of HPOP you got I got Swamps 160/100's and a T500 and its popping 1211 ICP code at WOT.

OBSWIZ · Dec 7, 2013

T500 is a 17* pump you need a modded HPOP with more volume.

To the OP, may just be a bad sensor or ipr..check those first very unlikely a HPOP causes Idle issues.

mandkole · Dec 7, 2013

Unless it gets worse at higher rpm and load, I doubt its a hydraulic pressure or pump issue--sounds more like wiring, regulator, sensor related. Have good fuel pressure? Any water in the fuel, gelling, etc? Its crazy cold everywhere right now.

Bobby@cp · Dec 7, 2013

Powerstroke Man 6.4 said:
What kind of HPOP you got I got Swamps 160/100's and a T500 and its popping 1211 ICP code at WOT.

Talk to swamps cause you shouldnt be getting that code.

OBSWIZ · Dec 7, 2013

Why is that...its normal without a HPOP that has more volume?

Bobby@cp · Dec 7, 2013

OBSWIZ said:
Why is that...its normal without a HPOP that has more volume?

Well according to his sig he has a hydra chip with swamps hybrid injector tunes and he has 160/100s... Stage twos, right? Stage twos require more oil than hybrids, correct?

OBSWIZ · Dec 7, 2013

Correct so that's why Powerstroke Man 6.4 is seeing the 1211 ICP with a T500. What part having Hybrid tunes has in it I don't know or why he has them. Either way he's needs a better HPOP.

Sorry for the derail Jered

MossBack · Dec 7, 2013

OBSWIZ said:
Correct so that's why Powerstroke Man 6.4 is seeing the 1211 ICP with a T500. What part having Hybrid tunes has in it I don't know or why he has them. Either way he's needs a better HPOP.

Sorry for the derail Jered

I agree with this. My 97 180/100 loves the tuning for hybrids (238/100) Idles smoother makes more boost and now that I have twin hpop it never throws p1211...

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Jaredkeller96 · Dec 7, 2013

Stock 15* wot she really starts starving defiantly here it wanting more fuel and oil lol.

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Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Dec 9, 2013

MossBack said:
I agree with this. My 97 180/100 loves the tuning for hybrids (238/100) Idles smoother makes more boost and now that I have twin hpop it never throws p1211...

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Hell ya my 160/100's down right love 200% nozzle hybrid tunes. Down right more power and a smoother idle.

OBSWIZ said:
Correct so that's why Powerstroke Man 6.4 is seeing the 1211 ICP with a T500. What part having Hybrid tunes has in it I don't know or why he has them. Either way he's needs a better HPOP.

Sorry for the derail Jered

Hi OBSWIZ This is the story how ended up with 200% nozzle hybrid tunes. Me and Dave could never solve my idling issues no matter all the adjustments he did. Reversion after reversion so he told me to try this 200% nozzle hybrid test tune and it automatically solved my idling issues.

Arisley · Dec 9, 2013

OK, this is JaredKeller96's thread, lets help him in this thread.
Powerstroke Man 6.4 you do have an issue, lets start your own thread. Keeps the confusion down.

JaredKeller96, Check codes, I think you might be correct, the old 15º just can't keep up with demand.

POWER-STRUCK · Dec 9, 2013

By description it sounds like cps wiring issues.

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mandkole · Dec 9, 2013

What is the issue? We went from an idle/off idle issue to a '15* cant keep up @ wot'

powerSmokin · Dec 9, 2013

I highly doubt it's the pump, why doesn't the OP just call Terminator and get his opinion on it? I can't see 160/100's starving that pump (which isn't a 17* pump) I'm running 225/100's with 3200-3300 ICP a WOT.

ICP sensor could be going bad, I dunno how new these tunes are but on my really old set I had an issue where it would kick up and down about 200-300 rpms at idle.

OBSWIZ · Dec 9, 2013

Stage 2's require more HPO than Hybrids...so since the T500 has the same swash plate and bore as a 17* ......how does it qualify as a performance pump without more Volume?

powerSmokin · Dec 10, 2013

OBSWIZ said:
Stage 2's require more HPO than Hybrids...so since the T500 has the same swash plate and bore as a 17* ......how does it qualify as a performance pump without more Volume?

I know for a fact the swash plate isn't the same as a 17 and the bore isn't the same. So you are saying the honey badger isn't a performance pump since it utilizes the same 17* plate?