big benefit to wrapping up pipes?

[PowerStrokeEnginuities]

So ceramic coating better than wrapped I take it?

 

[bboteler]

YES!!

 

[Mwilbur516]

So ceramic coating better than wrapped I take it?

Yep

 

[Mwilbur516]

I just got the ceramic coated y-pipe and delete pipe installed. The next turbo (if I can ever get one instead of sending it out to customers) will have a ceramic coated turbine housing. I'm also looking for a used set of stock headers to blast and have ceramic coated. The stuff looks great, it holds up awesome and serves a purpose. In other words, IT'S TITS MAN.

 

[PowerStrokeEnginuities]

Yep

i was being sarcastic...lol:slap:

 

[Mwilbur516]

i was being sarcastic...lol:slap:

I was being a smartazz.... LOL:slap:

 

[PowerStrokeEnginuities]

Haha :toast:

 

[Mdub707]

If you can coat inside and out. My hot pipe can be touched after a pass at the track

This is the key thing most people miss out on. Sure, fancy ceramic coats look nice on the outside, but they don't work as well like this, the INSIDE of the piping should be coated. The idea is the ceramic doesn't absorb heat like the metal of the pipes, so the heat stays in the pipe and goes to the turbo to help spool up. It also keeps the outside of the pipe cooler in case you have to touch it or have other parts very close by. You can do inside and out, but the important coating is on the inside. If you do the outside only, the exhaust tubing still absorbs all of the heat and then the ceramic just helps hold it in. Not as effective.

So ceramic coating better than wrapped I take it?

Yes, mainly because you can coat the inside and with wrap you cannot. Each has it's own benefits though.


As for wrapping exhaust tubing, as some have noted, it will retain moisture and rot pipes eventually. We used to have this problem on our race wheelers. We would wrap to help keep heat in the exhaust and expel faster, but mud and dirt and water would soak into the wrap and eventually corrode the piping, even on SS exhausts. A neat trick we used to do, was take your exhaust, and clean it very well. Take the exhaust wrap and soak it in water, then wrap your exhaust very tightly with it. Once it's wrapped, bake it an oven or put it near some other heat source to fully evaporate the water. After that, we would spray a sealant over the entire wrap/exhaust to "seal" it up to prevent water from penetrating. Everything would last MUCH longer and the exhaust wrap wouldn't look like crap from the mud and everything else it was subjected to. No reason this couldn't be done on our applications, though I'd be a little more picky about what sealant was used to spray over the wrap. I suppose if you had ceramic coating on the inside, then wrapped and sealed the outside... it wouldn't be too big of a deal and would keep the external part of it pretty cool, relatively.

 

[white07psd]

This is the key thing most people miss out on. Sure, fancy ceramic coats look nice on the outside, but they don't work as well like this, the INSIDE of the piping should be coated. The idea is the ceramic doesn't absorb heat like the metal of the pipes, so the heat stays in the pipe and goes to the turbo to help spool up. It also keeps the outside of the pipe cooler in case you have to touch it or have other parts very close by. You can do inside and out, but the important coating is on the inside. If you do the outside only, the exhaust tubing still absorbs all of the heat and then the ceramic just helps hold it in.

Strokers unlimited did my "lawnmower" header INSIDE and out. Lost about 100 degrees egts at 8500rpms "mowing the lawn"

 

[hawgdoctor]

Strokers unlimited did my "lawnmower" header INSIDE and out. Lost about 100 degrees egts at 8500rpms "mowing the lawn"

She looks good brother. The other velocity stack is here too whenever you wanna swing by, and grab it.

 

[Mdub707]

LOL, that's badass

 

[hawgdoctor]

I just got the ceramic coated y-pipe and delete pipe installed. The next turbo (if I can ever get one instead of sending it out to customers) will have a ceramic coated turbine housing. I'm also looking for a used set of stock headers to blast and have ceramic coated. The stuff looks great, it holds up awesome and serves a purpose. In other words, IT'S TITS MAN.

That can be arranged brother, hit me up....

So ceramic coating better than wrapped I take it?

Hands down far superior to the wrap. Don't get me wrong though when you wrap it the right way it does help, but as others have stated it does leave the base metal vulnerable to the elements.

This is the key thing most people miss out on. Sure, fancy ceramic coats look nice on the outside, but they don't work as well like this, the INSIDE of the piping should be coated. The idea is the ceramic doesn't absorb heat like the metal of the pipes, so the heat stays in the pipe and goes to the turbo to help spool up. It also keeps the outside of the pipe cooler in case you have to touch it or have other parts very close by. You can do inside and out, but the important coating is on the inside. If you do the outside only, the exhaust tubing still absorbs all of the heat and then the ceramic just helps hold it in. Not as effective.



Yes, mainly because you can coat the inside and with wrap you cannot. Each has it's own benefits though.


As for wrapping exhaust tubing, as some have noted, it will retain moisture and rot pipes eventually. We used to have this problem on our race wheelers. We would wrap to help keep heat in the exhaust and expel faster, but mud and dirt and water would soak into the wrap and eventually corrode the piping, even on SS exhausts. A neat trick we used to do, was take your exhaust, and clean it very well. Take the exhaust wrap and soak it in water, then wrap your exhaust very tightly with it. Once it's wrapped, bake it an oven or put it near some other heat source to fully evaporate the water. After that, we would spray a sealant over the entire wrap/exhaust to "seal" it up to prevent water from penetrating. Everything would last MUCH longer and the exhaust wrap wouldn't look like crap from the mud and everything else it was subjected to. No reason this couldn't be done on our applications, though I'd be a little more picky about what sealant was used to spray over the wrap. I suppose if you had ceramic coating on the inside, then wrapped and sealed the outside... it wouldn't be too big of a deal and would keep the external part of it pretty cool, relatively.

Correct on all sides. What actually works best is if you seal the pipe too. Have done this many times with the bikes as trying to coat the inside of a pipe that's 4ft long with several bends never works out to well. What I've always used is the silicone spray that is designed to work with the header wrap. Once you clean the pipe down I lay a nice even coat of it over the pipe first, and do the wet wrap trick, heat it up to remove the moisture, and then use the spray on the wrap to seal it. Have had several like this running around for 3-4 years, and still looks flawless. One we actually unwrapped to modify the exhaust, and check it over, at the coating under the wrap still looked perfect. Prep is key though with any of it. And yes those pictures posted earlier were all done in house.

 

[6.0 p-stroke]

Strokers unlimited did my "lawnmower" header INSIDE and out. Lost about 100 degrees egts at 8500rpms "mowing the lawn"

I wanna see videos of this thing in action!

 

[Ross@Flyindiesel]

I wanna see videos of this thing in action!

agreed!!!! i could only dream of mowing my lawn with that mower! haha

 

[white07psd]

I wanna see videos of this thing in action!

Will get some in 2 weeks. Pulled this past Saturday. Ran 19mph down the track pulling a 4k lb. sled

sent from the stool.

 

[Ross@Flyindiesel]

Will get some in 2 weeks. Pulled this past Saturday. Ran 19mph down the track pulling a 4k lb. sled

sent from the stool.

my lord! IMPRESSIVE!!!!!!!!!:jawdrop::joy:

 

[madpowerstroke]

Just wrapped my y pipe, I don't really care about the benefits, I wanted the pipe to look nice. It's titanium wrap, and I used stainless bands, stainless safety wire to secure..:thumbsup:

 

[SSpeeDEMONSS]

Look nice? You'll never see it once they're installed.

Garrett

 

[madpowerstroke]

You'll be surprised at how much you can see of them. I did a mod on the wire loom (got rid of it) so it opens the area seen where turbo is and back on engine.

 

[sleeps]

You'll be surprised at how much you can see of them. I did a mod on the wire loom (got rid of it) so it opens the area seen where turbo is and back on engine.

Pics of that? Of how much its cleared out.