Can you tow with a 364 and 190/100s?

Motostroker · Nov 4, 2013

I will have all mods to support these items. Full fuel system, built trans, etc. just curios if this setup will work. I tow other f250s. Maybe 10-12k of wieght

Pizza pig · Nov 4, 2013

Yes you can

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06f250powerstroke · Nov 4, 2013

get a set of T4 uppipes and a 64/68/.83 I had the same set up and I towed with it. can you hold it in overdrive up hill.... I wouldnt, but if your not a meathead and pay attention you will be fine. get eric from innovative to write you a tune and greg ^^^^ to hook you up with some parts

02POWERSTROKE7.3 · Nov 4, 2013

I have a set of ced t4 divided up pipes im thinking about selling if your interested.

Motostroker · Nov 4, 2013

Thanks guys. I think I will try it

Motostroker · Nov 4, 2013

02POWERSTROKE7.3 said:
I have a set of ced t4 divided up pipes im thinking about selling if your interested.

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02POWERSTROKE7.3 · Nov 4, 2013

Motostroker said:
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motoxracer42 · Nov 4, 2013

not really. a salesman will tell you yes.

you wanna keep the turbine small so you can keep it lit in od. also depends what states ypu wanna tow through, who builds your 190s, who tunes it, and what you consider actually being able to tow something. Im sticking with no just because I wouldn't setup someone to successfully tow with it. I tow my trailer with 205s, but I would have never attempted it with the 64/71 with diverter I was running before I built the last set of compounds. I hated a 364 but I ran the 71mm turbine which the 68mm came out to replace the 71. everyone is intitled to there own opinion, I tow in cali where its 55mph. try that with that setup and 12k+ behind it. whats wrong with an fmw 62. call cutting edge. he runs one on his personal truck and sends me vids of towing so I know it works. plus flow rate is superior to a cast 64. you have less rotational mass and more flow.

JDub · Nov 5, 2013

Interested to hear how the new 64.5fmw/68 will do on a 6.0

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motoxracer42 · Nov 5, 2013

hmmmm, I think ill try it on my car. they gonna do it in an efr?

Pizza pig · Nov 5, 2013

motoxracer42 said:
not really. a salesman will tell you yes.

you wanna keep the turbine small so you can keep it lit in od. also depends what states ypu wanna tow through, who builds your 190s, who tunes it, and what you consider actually being able to tow something. Im sticking with no just because I wouldn't setup someone to successfully tow with it. I tow my trailer with 205s, but I would have never attempted it with the 64/71 with diverter I was running before I built the last set of compounds. I hated a 364 but I ran the 71mm turbine which the 68mm came out to replace the 71. everyone is intitled to there own opinion, I tow in cali where its 55mph. try that with that setup and 12k+ behind it. whats wrong with an fmw 62. call cutting edge. he runs one on his personal truck and sends me vids of towing so I know it works. plus flow rate is superior to a cast 64. you have less rotational mass and more flow.

I agree and disagree with you. Any 6.0 no matter what turbo has issues towing in overdrive at any speed under 70mph. I can tow all day with my truck with 225/100 and a 66/73/91 with t4 pipes and a tow tune that locks out overdrive until 70 in tow/haul. 55mph is a breeze in the park locked in direct gear at 50-55mph in my truck. The new FMW 64 is going to be sweet, we have a kit on the way down to texas with one for a 6.4 with a 73 turbine...

4.0l sahara · Nov 5, 2013

yes....

JDub · Nov 5, 2013

motoxracer42 said:
hmmmm, I think ill try it on my car. they gonna do it in an efr?

It's in a S300 chassis. 64.5mm FMW wheel flows nearly identical to the cast 66. Available with the 68 , 70, or 73 turbine

motoxracer42 · Nov 5, 2013

Greg@MPD said:
I agree and disagree with you. Any 6.0 no matter what turbo has issues towing in overdrive at any speed under 70mph. I can tow all day with my truck with 225/100 and a 66/73/91 with t4 pipes and a tow tune that locks out overdrive until 70 in tow/haul. 55mph is a breeze in the park locked in direct gear at 50-55mph in my truck. The new FMW 64 is going to be sweet, we have a kit on the way down to texas with one for a 6.4 with a 73 turbine...

haha guess you haven't driven mine

and yes she still lays numbers down. I can tow with my race truck all day long but it wouldn't be something I would recommend to anyone. manual vb gives me full control. of course the smoke would be stupid. kinda like towing with 225s and a 66 hahaha.

6.0 p-stroke · Nov 5, 2013

I've towed heavy with my 225s and a 66, I would not call it a "tow friendly" setup by any means. Yes it is doable, I still do it occasionally, but everytime I do I am reminded why I miss my old setup (155s/ stock turbo). It gets old not being able to hear when towing because the truck wont stay in od, not to mention the smoke. I've gotten used to high egts with this setup so I don't really pay attention to them anymore, but with my old setup it was nice not even having to worry since they would rarely climb over 1000 when towing with a good tow tune.
Edit: I am interested to see how the new 64 from BW is going to run, especially if it flows what a cast 66 does

Pizza pig · Nov 5, 2013

motoxracer42 said:
haha guess you haven't driven mine and yes she still lays numbers down. I can tow with my race truck all day long but it wouldn't be something I would recommend to anyone. manual vb gives me full control. of course the smoke would be stupid. kinda like towing with 225s and a 66 hahaha.

Haha! its all a matter of opinion, bottom line is its do-able, as long as you don't mind staying in locked direct gear all the time, can stand the noise of the exhaust etc. The smoke levels and temps aren't bad if the revs are up... Not everyone can have the comfort of compounds. But I do know that 190/100 and a 62fmw tows awesome. I'm contemplating trying the 64.5 FMW with a 73 turbine to see what it can do.

motoxracer42 · Nov 6, 2013

I want one of these 64.5s for my sti. I really don't want an 800+hp car right now lol. I was gonna sell my 8374 and use another 9180 but that's the happy medium

powerstrokedkid87 · Nov 6, 2013

we have a couple of these setups running around, tows pretty good, not too hot either.

Big&dirty · Nov 6, 2013

What's hp at on the 64

MorganY · Nov 6, 2013

190/75's and a pmax with 15k behind me all day. 64/71 with a .70a/r still wasn't enough to keep the charger lit well enough to pull anything over 8k without getting hot up grades. Hated that turbo. .83 would have made it way worse. Ran both housings on my 62/68. I cruise with 8psi at 75mph with a 78mm under it.