Cheap power

Bigharm27 · Jul 1, 2015

CURRENT MODS ARE h&S MINI MAXX, S&B INTAKE, AND EGR DELETE WITH A 5 INCH DP STRAIGHT PIPE. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND AROUND 3-4K FOR A PACKAGE DEAL. I DONT TOW THAT OFTEN BUT I JUST WANT MORE TOP END POWER.

charles henson · Jul 1, 2015

How much can be gained using a streetmax turbo on a 15 & how much is the stock turbo worth,to help supplement the cost.
OP maybe you can buy my stock 15 & i'll upgrade to the streetmax & we can both gain some extra affordable hp,just a thought but good luck either way.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jul 1, 2015

HS-MotorsportsDallas said:
We developed our low pressure fuel system out of necessity. We saw pressure drops in the low pressure fuel system at around the 600-650 hp mark. I think, just like everything else in this world, every truck is going to see a pressure drop at a different point. Some will see it at a higher point, some will see it at a lower point. It's just like rods- some people have had failures around 600 hp already. We saw the Breaking Point 6.7 make multiple dyno pulls over 700 hp with a peak of 884 uncorrected without a rod issue. Telling someone they don't need to worry about a low pressure pump because you have made over X amount of hp with a stock pump is like us telling someone they don't need rods up to 884 hp because we didn't see an issue at that point. Just my opinion.

I no way am I saying that the lpfs is a bad upgrade.

What I was stating is that the op does not "need" one for a mild upgrade in hp. It will not hurt, but he was asking on what was necessary for low dollar mods to start with.

Also I was only stating is that in a lot of trucks, even ones with dual fuelers, the stock lift pump works fine. I am not saying that it is perfect by any means. But for a single stock hpfp truck he may be better off starting with a 15 hpfp and turbo before dropping to money on a lpfs thinking that it will gain him power by itself. Or that it is needed to support a tuner only truck. Because the stock ones have the ability to support much more.

Other than that let me finish with this statement. A low pressure fuel system upgrade is not going to hurt you in any way. Never claimed it to. But it will not make you more power. And if your looking for cheap hp I would start somewhere else first and work up to the lpfs.

To each his own. Not trying to start an argument nor have I said anything negative about anyone's product. Just trying to help the op with his list of mods and where to start.

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Bigharm27 · Jul 2, 2015

I thank everyone for their inputs. And Morgan. What do u recommend before jumping on a turbo kit to get some more power?

HS-MotorsportsDallas · Jul 2, 2015

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto said:
I no way am I saying that the lpfs is a bad upgrade.

What I was stating is that the op does not "need" one for a mild upgrade in hp. It will not hurt, but he was asking on what was necessary for low dollar mods to start with.

Also I was only stating is that in a lot of trucks, even ones with dual fuelers, the stock lift pump works fine. I am not saying that it is perfect by any means. But for a single stock hpfp truck he may be better off starting with a 15 hpfp and turbo before dropping to money on a lpfs thinking that it will gain him power by itself. Or that it is needed to support a tuner only truck. Because the stock ones have the ability to support much more.

Other than that let me finish with this statement. A low pressure fuel system upgrade is not going to hurt you in any way. Never claimed it to. But it will not make you more power. And if your looking for cheap hp I would start somewhere else first and work up to the lpfs.

To each his own. Not trying to start an argument nor have I said anything negative about anyone's product. Just trying to help the op with his list of mods and where to start.

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Thank you for the clarification, Morgan.

I guess I should have clarified my statement also. I agree that someone with a tuner or mild turbo upgrade probably doesn't need a low pressure system. I just didn't want everyone to think that they also don't need one if they are making 750-1200 hp like your example you gave.

I also did not feel like you were talking bad about our product. I just wanted to let everyone know that you have been very fortunate with your stock low pressure pump but, that is not always the case.

Continue on with good info guys!

jcain · Jul 2, 2015

Bigharm27 said:
I thank everyone for their inputs. And Morgan. What do u recommend before jumping on a turbo kit to get some more power?

With what you already have, custom tuning is the next logical upgrade within reason. A No Limit intake will get you some hp too.
After that you're looking at a turbo.

Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto · Jul 2, 2015

Bigharm27 said:
I thank everyone for their inputs. And Morgan. What do u recommend before jumping on a turbo kit to get some more power?

Given your budget stated above I would do a no-limit intake, 2015 TowMax turbo upgrade and custom tuning to bring it all together. You will stay within what you are looking for and be a blast to drive! It will gain you the top end you are looking for.

HS-MotorsportsDallas said:
Thank you for the clarification, Morgan.

I guess I should have clarified my statement also. I agree that someone with a tuner or mild turbo upgrade probably doesn't need a low pressure system. I just didn't want everyone to think that they also don't need one if they are making 750-1200 hp like your example you gave.

I also did not feel like you were talking bad about our product. I just wanted to let everyone know that you have been very fortunate with your stock low pressure pump but, that is not always the case.

Continue on with good info guys!

Absolutely. I know I've been fortunate. And the lpfs upgrade is next up on the list of things to do. My low pressure fuel does drops psi on the large tunes. Not enough to starve anything yet, but still drops some. Which is to be expected.

jcain said:
With what you already have, custom tuning is the next logical upgrade within reason. A No Limit intake will get you some hp too.

After that you're looking at a turbo.

Agreed 100%

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