Stupid comparison
It's actually a very accurate comparison. Same size wheels, same frame, same truck, same weather conditions, same dyno, same day, same operator, same brown streaks in the camera guys underwear. How much more condition perfect could the test have been, I'm curious? You're talking like it was flawed or skewed, maybe you even believe DP Mag sabotaged turbos, I don't know. From where I'm sitting, as a shop owner who manufactures performance parts, I'd be tickled to have testing done under those controls.
nobody would buy a new turbo without getting revised tunes (exactly what dp did)
Say what? Customers of mine never have to run custom tuning for drop-in turbos. I never have. I wouldn't even think of selling anything that required "special tuning" because it throws a red flag and 9 times out of 10 kills the buyers interest in a product. Why? Because it isn't user friendly at that point. It screams "headache". I've sold several Elite turbos and I've never had a single complaint or request for tuning to achieve maximum operation potential. I've sold box stock Powermax turbos too, and I've never had anybody call back with a the need of a tuning change because of their purchase choice. If you need more examples of trucks that perform well with bolt ons, I can put a list together.
As far as what DP mag did, why would they ever consider tuning changes past canned tunes or stock files for a drop-in/bolt-on tech article? Their reader base is 80% non-forum members who like tinkering and love simple, bolt-on, heavy hitting HP mods. They did exactly what the people buying their magazine would do and wants to do. Wise editorial decision
if any of you take this comparison to heart you're an idiot.
Honestly, I think you should consider your own advice. You're the only guy in here screaming about testing results. Everything available has been posted besides maybe some minute data gathered during drives. Which honestly is irrelevant considering the broad HP gap seen between the MTW turbo and the Powermax, as well as the Elite turbo. Maybe you care about what EGT's were while being down 70hp, but I don't. Neither does anybody else.
Once dp releases all of the info we'll be able to make a conclusion, until then I'll stay open minded.
Stay open minded all you want. The DP Mag article isn't gonna show results any different then what you see here. if you need to read it in a article from McGlothlin to believe it to be true, then by all means don't let anybody stop you. As far as I know, Adrian asked DP Mag not to print the results of his turbo performance. So the only place you'll see what it's really worth is gonna be here, what you're reading now.... 70hp shy of Elite, 20hp shy of the box stock Powermax
Of course customer service wasn't mentioned.
I'm not sure what that has to do with turbo testing or this thread? I'm assuming your just trying to be lippy and take pot shots at elite because you don't like what you are reading. That's fine, but you'd be a moron if you think MTW doesn't have it's looooong list of unsatisfied, disgruntled, and unimpressed customers. Does Elite have a track record for bad customer service? Yeah, they did once upon a time. Do they now? No, not at all. Thats what matters.
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