How far are you hauling these bales? What is the Gross Combined Weight rating for your truck? How about you haul 10 bales and make two trips. It would probably still be illegal because you would be over 26,000 lbs without a CDL, but would draw a lot less attention and be much safer for other motorists.
DOT nailed me, need bigger rig...
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Fantom
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Screw the other motorists, if they don't want to get killed, they shouldn't be on the road.
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It's about 70 miles from the furthest field to the main farm so really want to haul a full load every time, may go half loads till I get things sorted out. I'm not sure the combined weight, not a very good trucker I'm afraid.
Pretty desolate area, don't pass more than 5 or 10 cars round trip so have never been to concerned about it all in the past, but might as well get legit now.
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The hitch is your biggest holding point. I don't know of any rated over 30k.
The Allison's I've ran behide a C7 cat in a motor home was great, put 70k on it without any trouble, was at 35-40k gross.
Then I had a Allison behide a cummins rated at 400hp 1200 tq and it did great too, put 68k on it with the same gross, now I have one behide a C13 cat, 525hp, it's gross is at 40,000-45,000 and it has around 30,000 miles.
The cats pull, they have power, but drink the fuel. Cummins run good, but get better mileage. I would suggest a cummins.
The Allison's I've ran behide a C7 cat in a motor home was great, put 70k on it without any trouble, was at 35-40k gross.
Then I had a Allison behide a cummins rated at 400hp 1200 tq and it did great too, put 68k on it with the same gross, now I have one behide a C13 cat, 525hp, it's gross is at 40,000-45,000 and it has around 30,000 miles.
The cats pull, they have power, but drink the fuel. Cummins run good, but get better mileage. I would suggest a cummins.
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Earlier this year.....
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FYI the dot doesn't care about your trucks GCWR from the factory, they only look at your hitch, axles, tire ratings. Farmers had differnt regulations, but from what I've been told you can only have a trailer rating of 9,900 without a cdl, and or a max GVWR (truck trailer ratings) of 26,000. Some states will let framers slide from needing a cdl, or use too.
Talk to your local dot, but you should be good to have 30k behide the truck as long as your hitch and axles aren't over loaded.
Talk to your local dot, but you should be good to have 30k behide the truck as long as your hitch and axles aren't over loaded.
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Farmers can own a semi truck and trailer, and use it for the farm without a CDL, but it has to have farm plates on it and don't get caught using it to haul someone else's grain (for example). Basically, don't run for hire if you don't have a CDL.
wyomingtrucker
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That's gonna change soon. They want the farmers to get cdls because of the equipment we use and if you sell what you raise it is actually commercial. They think that try are losing money from the farmers.
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If you know Anything Bout hauling and DOT you know that much weight is in no way shape or form legal on that vehicle and isn't legal with out a CDL. If your trailer is over 10k lbs you need a CDL anyways. If you've been hauling a trailer long enough getting a CDL shouldn't be too bad for you. Get your rig, get a CDL book. Learn the pre trip front to back and do the driving and maneuvers and you're All set. With DOT bumping up the severity and weight of offenses it doesn't pay to haul dirty anymore
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I know a guy with a Freightliner Sport Chasis for sale... super clean
I got my CDL within the past year. Not counting expenses for the Medical, I paid less than $200 (including written, driving, and the actual license).
OP, what is your trailer rated for? It would have to be one h#ll of a gooseneck to ever get even close to being legal to haul that much weight. Even with the heaviest duty goosenecks, usually 24k is the GVWR and that includes the weight of the trailer. There are a few built for more, but they aren't very common.
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Chill...varies state to state. Required here
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Sooo do you need a CDL to tow a 10-12k boat? Legally anyways?
Twan
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As of now, if it's for personal use no. If your getting paid to yes.
Getting paid has nothing to do with you needing or not needing a CDL. For that matter, how much weight you are towing doesn't matter. If you have a GCWR over 26k, you need a CDL. For example, I have a GCWR of 30900 for my truck and trailer (11400 for my F350 and my trailer is rated 20500) . Even with the trailer empty, I couldn't legally drive my truck with the trailer until I got my CDL. To take the driving portion of the test (when I only had my CDL permit), I had to get someone with a Class A CDL, to ride with me to go to the testing location. There are some exemptions such as a tiolet law (this allows RVs not to require one). Look up your state laws for exemptions. The FMCSA website also provides useful info.
Twan
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Are you sure the DOT goes of the GVWR of the trailer? I was told they don't, but of the axle and hitch of your trailer.
Twan
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Colorado state law as long as it's personal it dose not matter, when it becomes business we can't pull a trailer over 9,999 or have a GVWR of more than 26,000. Which I've found most states follow this set of laws.
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