emulsifed diesel

[RBernardi]

Oh I know you can't use it on the highway, and if you get pulled into a mobile inspection station that the California highway patrol likes to set up and they dip your tank and find red dye i have heard its a $10,000 fine

 

[SIX_OHH]

Your right but its widespread that if anything other than ulsd is caught in your tank...your ***ked.

 

[RBernardi]

And that's just because its more of a polluntant? The air resource board gives us permits to run offshore with red dye. I wonder why they don't make Exxon supply us with #2. If they don't want it in the air.

 

[SIX_OHH]

Polluntant? No. I really believe no one gives a crap about that. They want there tax money$$$$ If it aint green you probably didnt pay your taxes on it.

 

[UPINSMOKE]

And that's just because its more of a polluntant? The air resource board gives us permits to run offshore with red dye. I wonder why they don't make Exxon supply us with #2. If they don't want it in the air.

They don't get as much money from taxes if you are using agricultural or off-road diesel as compared to regular diesel which is taxed heavily.

 

[glamis]

Well, I wouldn't burn any of those things...

You know you burn water and brake clean, and that doesn't bother you? Water should get absolutely no where in to your fuel system. It is detimental to pump surfaces and injectors.

It's not even so much what we think might be in there that would cause me to throw it away, the simple fact that you DON'T know what's in there, would cause me to throw it away. Is it really worth it? How much money will you save by burning this? How much could it potentially cost to fix, not to mention the headache in itself of having to fix it, the down time of the truck, the yelling wife, the purchasing of beer, the loss of a socket down into the frame somewhere...

Just thinking out loud man. You're just braver than I, I guess.

For me, it just boils down to NOT KNOWING what is in there, and you may never actually know.

I know some guys that have accidentally run boil-out (a cleaning agent that some restaurants use to clean their deep fryers) in their system. This is quality oil that was filtered down to .5 micron area, and it didn't make it a full tank and all 8 injectors needed to be replaced.

i guess i should have been more clear
i get oil with all those things in it
then i process it and get the water out.

getting the water out of oil,no problem eather settel it out,or boil it out
but im not going to heat diesel to 220 deg
scare me...

 

[RBernardi]

Man I wasn't thinkin out side the box....damn that's exactly it. I knew it too.

 

[genie144]

Dave

If you don't know what is in it, you suspect there is already gasoline in it, your normal processing uses gasoline as a cleaning agent, your 50 gallons isn't clean - what are you hoping to gain?

If you are dead set on using it, process it and see what happens. If it cleans up like you would hope, than run it. If not, dispose of it properly.

I assume that you know if you use gasoline to clean/thin it - you will need to use oil (couldn't begin to guess the percentage) to thicken it back up?

Sam

 

[glamis]

Dave

If you don't know what is in it, you suspect there is already gasoline in it, your normal processing uses gasoline as a cleaning agent, your 50 gallons isn't clean - what are you hoping to gain?

If you are dead set on using it, process it and see what happens. If it cleans up like you would hope, than run it. If not, dispose of it properly.

I assume that you know if you use gasoline to clean/thin it - you will need to use oil (couldn't begin to guess the percentage) to thicken it back up?

Sam

im not sure im following you

[If you don't know what is in it, you suspect there is already gasoline in it, your normal processing uses gasoline as a cleaning agent, your 50 gallons isn't clean - what are you hoping to gain?
/COLOR]

if i clean it,and add it in as fuel
or blend it in a bach of w85

and yea i was thinking of adding it into a batch of oil,
do a viscosity test,and add rug as needed

i look at it like this
it's filler,end up with a short batch just add this
of make a small batch reguler size with this.

i dont understand all thease responses
i typed i have fuel with water in it,how do i clean it.
and everybody else seems to have heard
i want to burn 134a freon mixed with sawdust and battery acid. ??

 

[SIX_OHH]

You said it hasnt settled out..So is it really water. You want the water out then boil it. What else do you need to know?

 

[Rodslinger]

Dave, you stated that you had red #2 with maybe water and or gasoline. The problem is you don't know what's in there. If you do then disregard this. I've been running WMO and watf for about 3 years with no problems. You have only been doing so a short time and your already posted that you have had filter and or other problems. You need to be sure of your source is all I'm saying. You start pumping chit into your truck and you going to have failure in your fuel delivery system. That is going to way out cost the savings in fuel.

 

[Rustin]

Flashpiont from wiki.
The flash point of a volatile liquid is the lowest temperature at which it can vaporize to form an ignitable mixture in air. Measuring a liquid's flash point requires an ignition source. At the flash point, the vapor may cease to burn when the source of ignition is removed.

[Diesel] Flashpoint: >60 °C (140 °F) Autoignition temperature: 210 °C (410 °F)

Diesel is not as volatile as gas. But do use precaution when heating up your diesel to remove water. Other wise build a filtering system with a water separator added to it, and since you received the concoction on the cheap! Test it.

 

[glamis]

Dave, you stated that you had red #2 with maybe water and or gasoline. The problem is you don't know what's in there. If you do then disregard this. I've been running WMO and watf for about 3 years with no problems. You have only been doing so a short time and your already posted that you have had filter and or other problems. You need to be sure of your source is all I'm saying. You start pumping chit into your truck and you going to have failure in your fuel delivery system. That is going to way out cost the savings in fuel.

yea yea i totally agree
all im saying is
if the origional source services and runs gen sets
what could they possably have mixed into it
that would cause you to throw it away ??
theres nothing that i can think of..

and maybe im not thinking

what can you think of,that would get mixed in D2
that would make you get rid of it,not use it ??
what ??

 

[CSIPSD]

it's 200.00 dollers worth of fuel,all i have to do is get the water out..
I'm glad your ignorant and scared to do it,more for me..

but what i dont understand is why you even come to this section,except to be a douchbag and talk sh!t,go eat a bowl of d!ck

Damn... You really told me...

Were you not just posting about crapping a set of injectors???

Well there is $1500 bucks down the drain, but good thing you saved that $600 in fuel by running crap thru your injectors... Yup, good math there...

I'm not ignorant, I just understand economics...

IE- saving $600 a year on fuel doesn't add up if your spending $1500 a year on injectors...:thumbup:

Not to mention I get my fuel for free...:flipa:

 

[glamis]

Damn... You really told me...

Were you not just posting about crapping a set of injectors???

Well there is $1500 bucks down the drain, but good thing you saved that $600 in fuel by running crap thru your injectors... Yup, good math there...

I'm not ignorant, I just understand economics...

IE- saving $600 a year on fuel doesn't add up if your spending $1500 a year on injectors...:thumbup:

Not to mention I get my fuel for free...:flipa:

yea in retrospect i over told you..sorry

actually i found that if your not driveing it hard enoughf,
it can coat the exhaust system and smoke white.
i went on a hard run and theres no smoke again.
learning,,

but really why come here ??
you dont do it,and dont want to.
have you calught the gandy syndrome ?
or are youi waiting to find the key to doing this saftely ??

 

[CSIPSD]

yea in retrospect i over told you..sorry

actually i found that if your not driveing it hard enoughf,
it can coat the exhaust system and smoke white.
i went on a hard run and theres no smoke again.
learning,,

but really why come here ??
you dont do it,and dont want to.
have you calught the gandy syndrome ?
or are youi waiting to find the key to doing this saftely ??

I have 60 gallons of used motor oil in my shop right now... I'm interested, but I am also not going to do it in a shed behind my apartment with no apparent idea what I am doing...

I'm not going to pour crap in my tank that I don't know what it is, whats in it, how long its been sitting out.

Push comes to shove, I'll burn it in a waste oil heater.

 

[glamis]

I have 60 gallons of used motor oil in my shop right now... I'm interested, but I am also not going to do it in a shed behind my apartment with no apparent idea what I am doing...

I'm not going to pour crap in my tank that I don't know what it is, whats in it, how long its been sitting out.

Push comes to shove, I'll burn it in a waste oil heater.

pull off the top of your setteled oil
put into an openfaced barrel 30 gallons
add in about 7 gallons of rug(im assumeing the oil is 15-40)
add less rug if it's 10-30
mix it,wait 10 min
do a viscosity test and compair readings to D2
(you can make a viscosity tester out of a water bottle,and use a stop watch
add rug until viscosity is the same as D2
wait 48 hours
pump the oil from top all the way down to about 4 inches off the bottom
through a series of filters
13 micron fs1212 will pull out water
5 micron string wound filter
1 micron string wound filter
1 micron absolute fuel filter,baldwin bf7587

if you are really a freak about it
filter it twice
then figure on plugging a few onboard truck filters in the first 500 miles
(it cleans the tank out)
also i find that my 2001 ,that about 10 gallons of diesel and the rest w85
is the best mixture.

thats it in a nutshell
ill give you all filter numbers
tell you how to build a cheap pump from a chevy oil pump
and tell you anything i have learned anytime you want
were old school you and me
and i should show you more respect

david

ps.the year 01 had colbalt faceing on the injector plunger and barrel
and i believe firmly that the unremoved suspended carbon in the used oil
is alot softer that the injector faceing

36 gallons of D2 is 147.24
36 gallons of w85 is about 28.00
a little smoke and a little less power is worth it to me

 

[ToyTonka]

pull off the top of your setteled oil
put into an openfaced barrel 30 gallons
add in about 7 gallons of rug(im assumeing the oil is 15-40)
add less rug if it's 10-30
mix it,wait 10 min
do a viscosity test and compair readings to D2
(you can make a viscosity tester out of a water bottle,and use a stop watch
add rug until viscosity is the same as D2
wait 48 hours
pump the oil from top all the way down to about 4 inches off the bottom
through a series of filters
13 micron fs1212 will pull out water
5 micron string wound filter
1 micron string wound filter
1 micron absolute fuel filter,baldwin bf7587

if you are really a freak about it
filter it twice
then figure on plugging a few onboard truck filters in the first 500 miles
(it cleans the tank out)
also i find that my 2001 ,that about 10 gallons of diesel and the rest w85
is the best mixture.

thats it in a nutshell
ill give you all filter numbers
tell you how to build a cheap pump from a chevy oil pump
and tell you anything i have learned anytime you want
were old school you and me
and i should show you more respect

david

ps.the year 01 had colbalt faceing on the injector plunger and barrel
and i believe firmly that the unremoved suspended carbon in the used oil
is alot softer that the injector faceing

36 gallons of D2 is 147.24
36 gallons of w85 is about 28.00
a little smoke and a little less power is worth it to me

Good advice there glamis.

What advice I'll add is that instead of running this stuff straight to 100%, you can use at at low percentages, like 20% of it in your blend. That way, you can have some safety margin.

 

[glamis]

Good advice there glamis.

What advice I'll add is that instead of running this stuff straight to 100%, you can use at at low percentages, like 20% of it in your blend. That way, you can have some safety margin.

i just went to tds and got a pm from you.lol an old 1
im sandfun over there..think i had to change my name for some reason once apon a time