Engine Dusting

powerstrokenstang · Jun 14, 2011

filters are over rated..... lol. my puller has not had a filter on it in about 3 years lol. i do have a 6637 on my sd though, and my granddads had a k&n, never noticed dust in it. its got a 6637 now but the k&n was gettin old and didn want to have to clean it.

PsRumors · Jun 15, 2011

CSIPSD said:
Ugh...

People, its not the filter media... Its the sealing of the box.

Agreed its a K&N issue, but its not the filter media.

I have had the same AFE/S&B/K&N type oiled gauze filter for 7 years and 200k... NO dusting issues at all.

It's not just the sealing of the box....Lots of people don't understand how to properly care for an oil gauzed filter

CSIPSD · Jun 15, 2011

PsRumors said:
It's not just the sealing of the box....Lots of people don't understand how to properly care for an oil gauzed filter

True as well, but if you *** up the filter by drying it with compressed air... Thats not the filters fault.

Bruno2 · Jun 15, 2011

I either set them on the outside AC unit to dry or just let them sit on the work bench overnight and they dry just fine. Whenever I would buy a filter from K&N I would call them a month or so later and tell them it was coming apart. Then they would send me a replacement for free. This way I would have 2. One to swap while I got around to cleaning and oiling the other. I would store them wrapped in a bag in the box they came in. This way I didnt have to turn it around or buy a paper filter to use while the oil and gauze filter was being serviced.

sgleshot · Jun 15, 2011

idk, to each their own, but I run a K&N on my pro truck, idk if it pull as much or more than my 7.3 does being that it spends it like at 7800 to 8k rpm, but i had to run one of their diapers on the outside of the filter so it would help to pick up stuff so it would quite clogging the air bleeds in the carb. Yes I realize, somewhat comparing apples to oranges, but what im getting at is the material they use for the filter media without a doubt does let dirt, dust, whatever through. I'm not a huge fan or K&N, but there isnt much better out there for the application and they pay contingency on occation. I also love my 6637 for my 7.3!!

neverkickn · Jun 15, 2011

Bruno2 said:
I either set them on the outside AC unit to dry or just let them sit on the work bench overnight and they dry just fine. Whenever I would buy a filter from K&N I would call them a month or so later and tell them it was coming apart. Then they would send me a replacement for free. This way I would have 2. One to swap while I got around to cleaning and oiling the other. I would store them wrapped in a bag in the box they came in. This way I didnt have to turn it around or buy a paper filter to use while the oil and gauze filter was being serviced.

Yeah I guess it is ok to do that since they are a big company and all

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fordfreak4life · Jun 15, 2011

I pulled a K&N off a 2006 5.9 cummins 2 days ago because the guy was complaining about power.... needless to say it looked like the damn thing had been running with no filter... idk why anyone would invest in a dirt sucking oil charged filter for anything.... if i was running a race truck it would have an intake tube run as far forward as possible for a cool air charge with no filter... otherwise ill stick with my paper element filters..... they work

Dieselfever · Jun 16, 2011

Bruno2 said:
I either set them on the outside AC unit to dry or just let them sit on the work bench overnight and they dry just fine. Whenever I would buy a filter from K&N I would call them a month or so later and tell them it was coming apart. Then they would send me a replacement for free. This way I would have 2. One to swap while I got around to cleaning and oiling the other. I would store them wrapped in a bag in the box they came in. This way I didnt have to turn it around or buy a paper filter to use while the oil and gauze filter was being serviced.

neverkickn said:
Yeah I guess it is ok to do that since they are a big company and all oke:

My thoughts also :doh: If you are so adamant about how good they are then spending the money for a second filter element should not be an issue. Rather than being deceptive to get a second for free.

-Michael

Overkill · Jun 16, 2011

My guess would be improper oiling of the filter if its allowing dust past it. Never had dust past the filter in my dirt bikes, which live in dirt and sand. They are not force inducted, however so I'm not sure that's comparing apples to apples.

Bruno2 · Jun 19, 2011

Dieselfever said:
My thoughts also :doh: If you are so adamant about how good they are then spending the money for a second filter element should not be an issue. Rather than being deceptive to get a second for free.

-Michael

Since you are so adamently against them then why would you even care?

Mad Max · Jun 19, 2011

derail and moved to awol in 3....2....1...

gnxtc2 · Jun 24, 2011

I have a K&N filter on my truck since new. I ran the stock replacement filter and applied grease around the edges of the filter. Sent my oil to get analyzed and it came back with 0 silica reading.

Before the Tymar set came out, I looked through K&N's catalog and got myself a large cone type filter and have been running that ever since. Truck has over 202K on it.

I still send me oil to have it analyzed and it comes back with 0 silica readings.

I tried the part filter and didn't care for it.

Billy T.
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Aljay · Jun 24, 2011

I run a baldwin 2818 and it gets replaced once a year as does the panty hose I use as a pre filter ..............

Bruno2 · Jun 24, 2011

Aljay said:
I run a baldwin 2818 and it gets replaced once a year as does the panty hose I use as a pre filter ..............

I have never thought of that aljay. Great idea.

OBSWIZ · Jun 24, 2011

I've seen K&N's dust a turbo, A AFE Big mouth dust a turbo but never a Tymar-Donaldson.

Ask Quad, motorcycle and off road guys about K&N's..they will never use them ..haven't for years.

Aljay · Jun 25, 2011

Bruno2 said:
I have never thought of that aljay. Great idea.

Black thigh highs from walgreens are cheap ........

mortal798 · Jun 25, 2011

I can tell you from experience in a dealer shop (Lincoln-Mercury) that K&N caused all kinds of problems with the MAF sensors on gas engine cars and trucks. The oil would collect on the MAF hot wire and pick up dust that wasn't being filtered out. You would take out the MAF and look at the hot wire, it would look like it was wearing a fur coat. When it has a fur coat, it is insulated from the incoming air and it under calculates fuel.

I would never put one of those on any of my vehicles.

Aljay · Jun 27, 2011

mortal798 said:
I can tell you from experience in a dealer shop (Lincoln-Mercury) that K&N caused all kinds of problems with the MAF sensors on gas engine cars and trucks. The oil would collect on the MAF hot wire and pick up dust that wasn't being filtered out. You would take out the MAF and look at the hot wire, it would look like it was wearing a fur coat. When it has a fur coat, it is insulated from the incoming air and it under calculates fuel.

I would never put one of those on any of my vehicles.

The oiled elements have accelerated oil consumption on a few 7.3s .
Two friends have experimented with oil and non-oiled K&N.