FICM tunes

alwil · Nov 29, 2011

SIX_OHH said:
Throttle response is perfect with a tune loaded. Really big difference with the stock tune. It runs snappier with a bite like that. I have noticed one thing. It changes small things, you just have to know what they are to realize and feel it. Its not really a power mod its a make your $hit run better and smoother mod. Its a big factor, I think, in why I can take off on a cold start and be smooth running about it. Thats what a Ficm tune is for. When you lock and click all those things it changes together then you unlock a little horsepower but that not gonna be what your looking for in doing this. I love it and have another good 48v ficm I want to get 58v and probably another idp tune.

Im gonna say go idp for a tune. He sure as hell knows how to tune a truck well. I just have a soft spot for thinking he is the best for good quality 6.0 tuning. like smooth and power wise. Im not really interested in the rest except for 58v mods. but this is just my opinion.

I think this might be one of the best answeres I have seen to date on an Ficm question

Mwilbur516 · Nov 29, 2011

^^^^:whs:^^^^

Mwilbur516 · Nov 29, 2011

I like IDP and have never had any problems with them or any of their products. I just wish they did remote tuning. I know its in the works, but I'm close enough to PHP and KEM, that I could just drive to their shops. I don't want to remove the FICM, pay for shipping, send it off, worry about it being damaged during shipping, wait, then reinstall.

Mwilbur516 · Nov 29, 2011

most trucks pick up ~35rwhp/65lbft with the PHP tuned FICM.

let me know if you have any further questions...thanks!

take care~

Dave Armstrong
Swamp's Diesel Performance
304-A Sand Hill Rd.
LaVergne, TN 37086

office# 615-793-5573, extension 2
fax# 615-793-5572
email- [email protected]

when replying, please include text from all previous email exchanges.

This is an e-mail I received after contacting Swamps about their FICM tuning. These are the gains for the tune only.

UpstateDieselGuy · Nov 29, 2011

I ran Eric's Moderate Tune on my '04 and it ran great. I live in Upstate NY where it gets cold and never had any issues running it with cold starts and combined with the Xtreme Race it was a nice combination.

Chris

windrunner408 · Nov 30, 2011

My question is what the is difference (performance wise) between a stock 48v FICM, a stock 58V FICM, and a tuned 58v FICM?

It would make sense to me if one guy tunes the FICM to your setup that it would run better than just a generic "canned" FICM tune.

I know Swamps claims about a 40Hp increase in simply changing from a stock 48v FICM to a stock 58v FICM. Anyone want to say BS or is it true??

Now if it is true, then how much extra Hp would be reasonable to assume one could expect to gain by tuning that 58v FICM (regardless of tuner and under the best circumstances)??

SIX_OHH · Nov 30, 2011

windrunner408 said:
My question is what the is difference (performance wise) between a stock 48v FICM, a stock 58V FICM, and a tuned 58v FICM?

Are you asking hp gains? The injectors run better.

It would make sense to me if one guy tunes the FICM to your setup that it would run better than just a generic "canned" FICM tune.

this, as far as i know, is new, so, its probably better but no one has it tell you.

I know Swamps claims about a 40Hp increase in simply changing from a stock 48v FICM to a stock 58v FICM. Anyone want to say BS or is it true??

Mostly true. depends on what its in.

Now if it is true, then how much extra Hp would be reasonable to assume one could expect to gain by tuning that 58v FICM (regardless of tuner and under the best circumstances)??

Most likely none. but like i said its not a hp mod.

Mwilbur516 · Nov 30, 2011

I have an untuned 58v FICM and the only time I noticed a big difference in performance is while towing. I don't think 40hp is accurate just going from a good 48v to a 58v. I thought the 40hp gains were achieved through the tuning. Guys who get their FICM's tuned are the ones who I see claiming performance gains.

windrunner408 · Dec 1, 2011

SIX_OHH said:
Most likely none. but like i said its not a hp mod.

So you say the injectors "run" better. What does that mean?? What are you using to say that they dont run good with the stock FICM??

I ask because it sounds subjective and would like understand what you are referring to.

11STROKER · Dec 1, 2011

all i can say on the TRUE custom FICM tune is KEM performance. mike set the bar for that stuff

Dave · Dec 1, 2011

windrunner408 said:
My question is what the is difference (performance wise) between a stock 48v FICM, a stock 58V FICM, and a tuned 58v FICM?

It would make sense to me if one guy tunes the FICM to your setup that it would run better than just a generic "canned" FICM tune.

I know Swamps claims about a 40Hp increase in simply changing from a stock 48v FICM to a stock 58v FICM. Anyone want to say BS or is it true??

Now if it is true, then how much extra Hp would be reasonable to assume one could expect to gain by tuning that 58v FICM (regardless of tuner and under the best circumstances)??

There is no horsepower gain with a 58v FICM without a tune.

windrunner408 · Dec 1, 2011

This is a quote from Swamp's Website about a 58v FICM with standard Ford tuning.

"Our 58v FICM units come pre-programmed with the latest factory Ford programming. These units are fully tested (on a test bench, actually sending signals to 8 fuel injectors), with a 30 amp load, and are ready to install & drive away. No reprogramming by Ford is required!!! Though we do offer custom "flashed" FICM units for an additional fee.

The higher output voltage of our 58v FICM forces the fuel injector to open more quickly, which allows the fuel injector to flow slightly more fuel than the lower/stock voltage unit. The quicker action of the fuel injector also slightly advances the injection timing. The results with the 58v FICM is that the truck will pick up an additional 40rwhp; even with the standard Ford programming."

windrunner408 · Dec 1, 2011

So I guess if you are saying that you didnt feel like you gained any HP when you upgraded your FICM then I guess a tune is needed to feel any real gains.

SIX_OHH · Dec 1, 2011

I honestly dont know per say but the injectors are hottrr witg 58v. You do pick up hp on a 58

Pizza pig · Dec 1, 2011

I call bs on the 58v adding power... the injectors are designed for 48v, the 58v would just make the injector operation with less strain... someone correct me if im wrong. I dont see how it could possibly add more fuel since the programming isnt calling for more fuel.

Dave · Dec 1, 2011

the extra voltage cant add hp. Only programming can do that in this case.

alwil · Dec 1, 2011

Dave said:
the extra voltage cant add hp. Only programming can do that in this case.

I could see it helping to run smoother though.

Mwilbur516 · Dec 1, 2011

The guys at Swamps said the tune is what added HP. With my 58v FICM I can't really tell any difference unless I'm towing, then I can feel a little more low end power. I will try a FICM tune and may even try to dyno my truck before and after. I just have to figure out who's FICM tune I want to try. It'd be nice if I could get a FICM tune from a shop with a dyno.