Just throwing this out there to see if there will be any hope of getting around all that tree hugger :biggun: crap that we have to live with. Ok was thinking of trading from my 08 250 to a 12 250. What gets me is putting in all that urea stuff. How long before someone comes up with a bypass for it?? I have herd that the new motors has a lot more power, but its a lot of money for a little extra power. I love my truck and will be hard to give it up. Don't know yet what i will do. Guess i am just rambing on. Thanks all :ford: person forever Jim