High EGTS with 160/30s

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These suggestions are band-aids, not a fix. His truck with 160/30's should not be seeing those temps while towing. Something is going on, either a tuning issue or something else. A buddy of mine runs the same injectors and a 38R and never has EGT issues when towing over mountain passes here in CO. I know because I've used his truck as a test mule for tuning. EGT's towing never crack 1200 degrees, and he pulls heavy loads from time to time. And these aren't "stock" like tunes either, this is on his daily driver setting that pulls well north of 300hp.



To the OP..... 1400 degrees on a truck like that is a sign of a problem. Find and fix the problem. Don't try to patch it with additional mods. Unfortunately it's going to be tough diagnosing something like that over the forum with limited info.

The 1.15 housing and WW on a 38R may be the culprit, or might not be. I've never run or data logged that combo at high altitude. I would assume that egts would be a bit higher on the low side of the RPM range because the turbo would be a bit slower to spool, but should be fine with the turbo at speed while pulling a heavy load uphill at higher RPM's. But without knowing what kind of boost numbers he's seeing or how effective that turbo really is at high altitude, it's just a guess at this point. I can't imagine he would have any back pressure issues, but airflow might be another story. Of course you have another turbo coming for it, swapping them out and checking the EGT's might tell the tale.

If you pressure tested the compressor side and it held, then you don't have a boost leak. On the other hand an exhaust leak usually will give you a sign with soot showing somewhere. Check the back of the turbo at the collector. If that pin isn't lined up, you're going to have a leak. When you pull the turbo, you'll see if there's been any sign of a leak.

What ICP are you seeing when pulling up a grade? You say it's not out of range, but what numbers are you actually reading?

On top of that, what pulse width are you reading when pulling up a grade. What PW do you see at WOT unloaded? That info can tell us a little about the tuning. Now if it's a timing issue with the tuning, that won't show up. Too little timing will cause EGT issues, too much gets a noisy rattling tin can. At least with PW we can see if that's an issue or rule it out.

Anyway, there are a few suggestions to look at. Have fun.

Ok I took the "stock" (Intake, Exhaust, NO tunes, same gearing and tires size) truck with the same load/gearing up the same hill. The egts maxed out at right around 1150.

I'll get some data logging with pw, icp, ipr, mfd, mvd, and boost pressures. Empty this truck can hit 1300 on the tow program with just a wot run at virtually any speed.

The don't want to just throw a bandaid on this whatsoever that was never in my intentions and I won't do it.
 
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I don't have this whole forum thing figured out yet but someone asked what intake and it's got and afe stg 2 and 4" exhaust.

Someone else asked if it makes good power aside the high egts and yes the truck runs awesome just hot.
 

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we are not suggesting a bandaid, maybe you skipped over the fact that he is towing at 12k ft in Colorado. thats quite the bit of altitude for any truck moving more fuel and TOO easy to build the heat when the air just isnt there. if he was much lower in elevation then we would take a better approach at this. but 12k behind the truck and 12k altitude? spells heat

Maybe you skipped over the fact that I also live in Colorado, and my buddy with the same 160/30 injectors lives in Colorado, and doesn't have those heat issues at all when towing at the exact same altitude.

Hell, my 250/200's have a hard time cracking 1200 degrees with a trailer in tow going up Eisenhower, Vail Pass, Monarch, you name it.

In other words, it's not the size of injectors. It's a matter of moving "more fuel" IF AND ONLY IF the tuning is calling for too much. However, a water injection kit is just a band-aid for "more fuel" tuning, not a fix. Correct the tuning if that's the issue, don't cover it up.

But if the tuning is correct, then something else is causing the problem. Again, water injection would just be a band-aid.

There is ZERO excuse for trying to live with and cover up high EGT's. Fix the problem, whatever it may be.

Make sense now?
 
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When you are pulling a grade and it gets hot how many RPMs are you running.
 

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I don't have this whole forum thing figured out yet but someone asked what intake and it's got and afe stg 2 and 4" exhaust.

Someone else asked if it makes good power aside the high egts and yes the truck runs awesome just hot.

You need to ask Curtis to throw a tune of his at your truck.....

A tank of fuel is small $$$ in the big picture.

907 Dave did just that to help me sort out my truck back in the day....hard to beat a tuner on your truck...tuning/diagnosing in real time.
 

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You need to ask Curtis to throw a tune of his at your truck.....

A tank of fuel is small $$$ in the big picture.

907 Dave did just that to help me sort out my truck back in the day....hard to beat a tuner on your truck...tuning/diagnosing in real time.
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Curtis has done an excellent job on his truck.
 
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Ok resolution was we somehow got the wrong nozzles I'm pretty sure on the injectors because we put some 80% nozzle programs on it and it runs way better, cooler, smoother, idles better, and runs a lot stronger across the board before it was pretty inconsistent on how it ran.
 

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