hybrid info wanted

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

go smaller on the sticks. alot smaller lol

 

[MorganY]

You should start smaller and work your way up. I'm on a 275cc conventional, and there is plenty of fuel for the street.
Too much fuel at times. Not for smoke reasons, but too much fuel for my driving record...

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

I don't want to have to rely on spray to make power though. And I'm not trying to buy a bunch of different injectors. What size are you thinking Lance?

Are you running dual pumps younger?

 

[Mdub707]

400 is way too big. You shouldn't need anything near that. Even 225's and the pro-charger setup should make one heck of a street truck.

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

We did 225s and an S472 and it wasn't enough.

 

[sleeps]

We did 225s and an S472 and it wasn't enough.

I plan on the same thing. Big single with a pro charger. I was thinking the opposite of you though. Bigger pro charger and smaller turbo. I was going to go f2 with somewhere around 75-80mm turbo. But I for injectors was thinking 285's or 300's? Should be plenty of fuel.

 

[Mdub707]

We did 225s and an S472 and it wasn't enough.

Wasn't enough in what regard? I mean you can make the truck drastically different with instant spool up too, just might not change the upper end HP at all. A set of compounds would help, or the pro-charger. That's a lot of fuel right there. What size nozzles were on those 225's?

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

The set up on that turbo was something crazy can't remember the specs but it flowed crazy air and spool almost as fast as a stock vgt.it wasn't enough as in we're looking for way more power.

Sleeps, what's your reasoning for that set up? Just curious. I believe the f2 flows 1825 cfms at 42 lbs

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

Nozzles were 150% mike

 

[BlueWaffle]

I'm seeing more and more people think that just because you throw huge injectors in a truck, you're going to make gobs of power. If you don't set it up right with good air/fuel combos, you're just going to make a hot, smokey, pos that runs like a$$. 6-700 hp in a daily driven street truck is plenty.....and you can do that with about half the fuel that a 400 hybrid would put out, don't need big oil, and will be relatively clean and cool.

IMO, all you're going to do with 400's is spend a $hitload of money, have a truck that doesn't run for crap until you get way up into the RPM's, and will likey toss a rod out the side. stick with a smaller size injector that will actually do everything you want it to and if you have the itch for 800+ every once in a while, throw a stage or two on it. I mean, where are you going to use that kind of power on the street anyways?

now all that being said, we still don't know the plans for the truck except you want it to be a DD. drag race, sled pull, dyno queen, etc etc???

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

DD and track on some weekends. What do you think would be a more appropriate choice for a little north of 700hp? Thanks for your help btw.

 

[Mdub707]

225's should have enough fuel for 700 without issue... I would think... just have to match the charger/s properly.

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

What nozzles?

 

[Cutting-Edge Diesel]

I dont like 225s with out extra oil. To common for them to not hold icp and then your just loosing power. 100% nozzles max for street truck.

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

I think we have some 225/150s from the last build on my friends truck at the shop. Ill see about getting them from him and getting some smaller nozzles. Can I run dual oil with the procharger sitting where it does? Would dyno tuning from eric eliminate the need for extra oil?

 

[MorganY]

I think we have some 225/150s from the last build on my friends truck at the shop. Ill see about getting them from him and getting some smaller nozzles. Can I run dual oil with the procharger sitting where it does? Would dyno tuning from eric eliminate the need for extra oil?

Yup I have dual pumps. Yes you can, you may have to change the delivery being that the bracket for the procharger is massive and in the way for a direct rail delivery, but it can be done. My system is completely out of the way, and you can find it unless you're looking for it. I doubt those 225's you have maintain ICP. You really need to dial those in first before you go bigger. You'll be surprised how that 225 will make your truck run with full ICP. You'll may more low end torque, and that charger will be spinning harder because there will be more exhaust velocity rather than smoke. Get a scanner on it and monitor ICP voltage

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

How is yours ran and did you make the kit or purchase it? The 225s haven't been on my truck. They were on his with dual oil and a big charger.

 

[Mdub707]

Can't you just copy your buddy's setup then? Or are you wondering how to do those injectors, with dual pumps and a pro-charger?

 

[MUDSTROKIN']

I was wanting to go bigger and do a prochargrr setup

 

[Pizza pig]

I think we have some 225/150s from the last build on my friends truck at the shop. Ill see about getting them from him and getting some smaller nozzles. Can I run dual oil with the procharger sitting where it does? Would dyno tuning from eric eliminate the need for extra oil?

There is no way to utilize the potential of that injector with that nozzle without dual pumps or the future adrenaline pump. I couldnt hold ICP with 150% nozzles, they are too much nozzle for the street too. Same tune and the 225/100 and it held ICP, the 100% will do just fine. for what youre looking to do. Dyno tuning wont help you magically gain ICP, it will just find the point to where you start to drop without dropping power, I found the sweet spot with Matt with only a few revisions. See below.

225's should have enough fuel for 700 without issue... I would think... just have to match the charger/s properly.

I dont like 225s with out extra oil. To common for them to not hold icp and then your just loosing power. 100% nozzles max for street truck.

Precisely, there is enough fuel for 700 with 225/100s if you can maintain ICP and have enough air. I have some fuel pulled and it drops oil to 3800 psi, pretty much as low as you can go and still have all your power. Theres more left on the table as it sits.

But of course no one is going to be able to convince you how to spend your money.