Looking to make the jump to a non-VGT turbo.

[Mike@MPD]

Onequickstock6.0 Has our 66/74 kit with 285's and has no issue towing his 25ft boat around. Egts are good and smoke is to a minimum. There is another member on here towing 12k with his s364 kit also

 

[MorganY]

Morgan, didn't you like the 64mm bullseye turbo on your truck (until the turbine grenaded) or was it still real laggy?? I take it the garrett 4088r didn't do so well either for spooling, even with the roller bearings?? The PT6466 definitely looks like it has some promising potential but I dont know. I would be curious how it would work because I think you can get those in a ceramic ball bearing configuration as well if I am not mistaken.

The bullseye had decent spool up, BP numbers were surprisingly well with the .70a/r (46 boost to 54 bp), but my powermax was still more fun because of spool up. The 4088r is for a gasser or a duramax/dodge setup. It seems to me that I need the exhaust velocity of 6000 rpms for it to pull right, exh side is WAY too big. Spool up has become a big factor for me in judging chargers.


What I think may work is a GTX3582R dual ball bearing with the 64 comp wheel for 205s would be a good setup, and maybe the PT6466, although I am not sure on the reliability, and neither is Precision when it comes to running it on a diesel lol. However, I'm tired of buying singles and compromising flow or spool up so I am in the process of compounds, and I don't want to guinea pig setups anymore.

 

[Pizza pig]

Morgan, didn't you like the 64mm bullseye turbo on your truck (until the turbine grenaded) or was it still real laggy?? I take it the garrett 4088r didn't do so well either for spooling, even with the roller bearings?? The PT6466 definitely looks like it has some promising potential but I dont know. I would be curious how it would work because I think you can get those in a ceramic ball bearing configuration as well if I am not mistaken.

The precision 6466 is only offered in a dual ball bearing, it has a 66mm turbine so its going to need a gate.

 

[MorganY]

Onequickstock6.0 Has our 66/74 kit with 285's and has no issue towing his 25ft boat around. Egts are good and smoke is to a minimum. There is another member on here towing 12k with his s364 kit also

could be the manifolds helping out a bunch on that though... my 71 wheel on my bullseye definitely wouldn't have been able to pull a boat around without clearing out an intersection

 

[Pizza pig]

could be the manifolds helping out a bunch on that though... my 71 wheel on my bullseye definitely wouldn't have been able to pull a boat around without clearing out an intersection

Im sure the manifolds help some, but Im pretty sure Shawn is the owner of the setup Mike is talking about and its a 64/68/83. The smaller t4 housing and divided up pipes make a world of a difference. You loose so much exhaust velocity with the stock collector and flange adapter, its like trying to breathe while swallowing a piece of un-chewed steak.

 

[MorganY]

Im sure the manifolds help some, but Im pretty sure Shawn is the owner of the setup Mike is talking about and its a 64/68/83. The smaller t4 housing and divided up pipes make a world of a difference. You loose so much exhaust velocity with the stock collector and flange adapter, its like trying to breathe while swallowing a piece of un-chewed steak.

I believe the 64/68 is doing well with the divided up pipes for sure. true divided up pipes are do make a big difference.

 

[windrunner408]

Onequickstock6.0 Has our 66/74 kit with 285's and has no issue towing his 25ft boat around. Egts are good and smoke is to a minimum. There is another member on here towing 12k with his s364 kit also

Got any videos of these things??

 

[Mike@MPD]

Videos are coming from the customers

 

[windrunner408]

The bullseye had decent spool up, BP numbers were surprisingly well with the .70a/r (46 boost to 54 bp), but my powermax was still more fun because of spool up. The 4088r is for a gasser or a duramax/dodge setup. It seems to me that I need the exhaust velocity of 6000 rpms for it to pull right, exh side is WAY too big. Spool up has become a big factor for me in judging chargers.


What I think may work is a GTX3582R dual ball bearing with the 64 comp wheel for 205s would be a good setup, and maybe the PT6466, although I am not sure on the reliability, and neither is Precision when it comes to running it on a diesel lol. However, I'm tired of buying singles and compromising flow or spool up so I am in the process of compounds, and I don't want to guinea pig setups anymore.

I got ya Morgan. I have to say that I think I agree here as well. I'm not sure which way I am gonna go but right now but I am exploring the MTW VGT turbos to see if I can get one to fully clean up my 190s. If I was gonna go with a larger injector (205+) I would undoubtedly go compounds all the way.