01PSD
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Great numbers
Mad Turbo Werks stage 4
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strokin6L
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Especially with 175/75's. I just don't think a single non vgt can put those numbers down with those size injectors on fuel.
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I'm kind of shocked a 175/75 has enough fuel to put down almost 600 rwhp.... amazing.
strokin6L
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Idk Greg...I don't know or have heard of anyone with a non vgt and 175/75's making nearly 590hp on fuel...and be very streetable. To make that amount of HP with a non vgt I would just think you'd need a bigger injector than a 1175/75. Obviously the size of the turbo plays a role
Cold Roller
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Great job man! As Adrian alluded, as any experiment goes, it would be very nice to see this repeated by other builds.
If you run the math from my posts on the web as twoicebergs:
Flow rate (lbs/hr) = (Max HP x BSFC)/(number of injectors x duty cycle)
Typical duty cycle is 85-90%. DC is efficiency related, not just ON-OFF.
BSFC = lbs/hp/hr (0.37 is a very reasonable for a 6.0 diesel)
A litre of diesel fuel weighs 0.832kg or 1.834lbs.
(590hp x 0.37lb/hp/hr)/(8 x 90%) = 30.32lb/hr (90% duty cycle)
30.32lb/hr / 1.834lbs/lt = 16.53lt/hr or 275.53ml/min (90% duty cycle)
275.53ml/min/1600inj/min/1000shot = 172.21ml (or cc)
Or 600hp could be made with 175.13cc injectors. Of course, it all has to come together.
I feel like such a newbie...
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Frank - changed my name due to 2 feet of snow still on the ground here. Last year it was 75*, today it was 0* for the low.
If you run the math from my posts on the web as twoicebergs:
Flow rate (lbs/hr) = (Max HP x BSFC)/(number of injectors x duty cycle)
Typical duty cycle is 85-90%. DC is efficiency related, not just ON-OFF.
BSFC = lbs/hp/hr (0.37 is a very reasonable for a 6.0 diesel)
A litre of diesel fuel weighs 0.832kg or 1.834lbs.
(590hp x 0.37lb/hp/hr)/(8 x 90%) = 30.32lb/hr (90% duty cycle)
30.32lb/hr / 1.834lbs/lt = 16.53lt/hr or 275.53ml/min (90% duty cycle)
275.53ml/min/1600inj/min/1000shot = 172.21ml (or cc)
Or 600hp could be made with 175.13cc injectors. Of course, it all has to come together.
I feel like such a newbie...
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Frank - changed my name due to 2 feet of snow still on the ground here. Last year it was 75*, today it was 0* for the low.
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01PSD
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the *** just happened LOL
strokin6L
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Buddy of mine just had some 175/stock nozzle injectors installed recently. He was told that injector and a 64mm turbo will make 600hp.
01PSD
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Even with a larger injector.. no one has even come close to that with a 64 have they?
strokin6L
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Yeah I don't think so... that's why I told him that I found really hard to believe.
Cold Roller
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01PSD
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I was trying to read it on my phone and said "I'm just gonna have to wait until I can get to my desk and close my door so I can focus on this post some more" LOL
strokin6L
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I'm aware of that Greg...617hp to be exact. But we're not talkin about 225's.
strokin6L
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And Greg...you do realize that that 617hp was made being live tuned by Eric on ID's dyno just after Nate made 548hp with the exact same setup. Eric found nearly another 80hp just through live tuning it. Plus 225's should put out more fuel and make more power than 175's anyways.
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strokin6L
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And another thing that that vgt has that that 371 won't have will be street manners. I'd love to see someone daily drive with a 371 and 175's. Haha I bet that'll be fun.
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strokin6L
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If that's your point...then why try comparing 175's vs 225's. What I was trying to get at Greg... is that my buddy was told that a 175/stock nozzle injector and a 64mm turbo will make 600hp when a 175/75 with a MTW stage 4 can't even do it with the stage 4 pushing more air than the 64. So why bring Nate's 64mm 225 setup into the mix?
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