More nozzle info: MPD 15% vs. Elite 15%

3brorce · Nov 22, 2013

Going to need more K16 to take care of the fuel side when the 72 is added.

Beans71086 · Nov 23, 2013

3brorce said:
Going to need more K16 to take care of the fuel side when the 72 is added.

I doubt I'll ever go dual fuelers, this will be enough fuel for me with the 72. Or at least for now it is. LOL

3brorce · Nov 23, 2013

You will get some rail drop on big tune most likely though eh? Just have to drop PW some.

powerstrokin15 · Nov 23, 2013

I was maintaining 25k at 2.2ms on 30% nozzles so I would imagine him being able to handle 15s just fine...

Eric@HoldersDiesel

3brorce · Nov 23, 2013

Unless your pump is a freak haha.

Riverside · Nov 23, 2013

Beans71086 said:
Got that slip at the Antrim diesel drags, while there I got talking to Craig about my problems and he said they had just got their first set of 6 hole 15% nozzles in and he'd send them up if I wanted to try them.

So 3 weeks later Marty threw them in for me (thanks Martin!) and it went to atco for some more track time. The only thing we changed were the nozzles and I was very happy with the end result.
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g464/Beans71086/91BB66B4-5C52-4A4A-B6C3-23FF30DAC21C.jpg

According to the calculator that's about 636hp.

This isn't meant as a cut twards elite, but to put this in perspective I lost power hp from stock with my elite 15% nozzles, then gained almost 100hp after swapping to the MPD 15%.

I know there is a lot of debate as to how nozzles size is determined, I was told that these, like the rest of the 6 hole nozzles, were extrude honed 15% over from new stock nozzles.

Lastly, I wanna thank Craig and the crew at MPD for sending those nozzles up and solving this problem I've been struggling with for the past year! You guys rock!

Just so im seeing everything clear....

Are you running stock fuel right? With MPD 15% nozzles.

What was the RP at what PW that produced this run.
Or PW and RP on any other WOT run?

nickg3130 · Nov 23, 2013

I wonder if 15% are worth throwing in with my 71mm.

Dzchey21 · Nov 23, 2013

yeah I agree, that's the only one I have ever heard maintain 24k on 30 percents

Beans71086 · Nov 23, 2013

Riverside said:
Just so im seeing everything clear....

Are you running stock fuel right? With MPD 15% nozzles.

What was the RP at what PW that produced this run.
Or PW and RP on any other WOT run?

Stock hpfp, fuel bowl delete, Marty's a1000 lift pump.

With elites 15s I was holding 24.5 with MPDs 15s it's dropped to 22.5. I'll have to get back to you on the PW, it's a custom tune of Eric's based off the extreme X but with more fuel. I'll check today.

nickg3130 said:
I wonder if 15% are worth throwing in with my 71mm.

I don't think it's going to hurt any.

powerstrokin15 said:
I was maintaining 25k at 2.2ms on 30% nozzles so I would imagine him being able to handle 15s just fine...

Eric@HoldersDiesel

I'll trade you pumps

Jeff@Spartan · Nov 23, 2013

So it dropped 2,000 psi of rail pressure at WOT and still makes way more power? Pretty impressive.

jdgleason · Nov 23, 2013

From what you're saying it looks like these nozzles probably don't flow the same by quite a bit. Good to know tho!

powerstrokin15 · Nov 23, 2013

lol. I guess I'm lying. my pump maintained 30s at 2.2ms not 2.3msfor around 10k miles. it doesn't anymore. but it did. it maintains now at 2.0 I'm pretty sure morgan had a truck that maintained 30s too.

but that's all besides the point and turns into a **** show of everyone's word vs everyone else's.

sorry to derail kelly. lol.

Eric@HoldersDiesel

Beans71086 · Nov 23, 2013

powerstrokin15 said:
sorry to derail kelly. lol.

Eric@HoldersDiesel

No big deal, I expect it from a douchbag. LOL

The tune I'm running is 2.25 pw a WOT according to the dashdaq.

3brorce · Nov 23, 2013

Beans71086 said:
No big deal, I expect it from a douchbag. LOL

Ahaha thats mean.

Erikclaw · Nov 23, 2013

powerstrokin15 said:
lol. I guess I'm lying. my pump maintained 30s at 2.2ms not 2.3msfor around 10k miles. it doesn't anymore. but it did. it maintains now at 2.0 I'm pretty sure morgan had a truck that maintained 30s too.

Eric@HoldersDiesel

That makes sense. Freak pump now acting more normal. lol

Beans71086 · Nov 23, 2013

3brorce said:
Ahaha thats mean.

Eric knows I love him, us Clifford truck drivers gotta stick together.

jdgleason said:
From what you're saying it looks like these nozzles probably don't flow the same by quite a bit. Good to know tho!

Yep, definitely more fuel in the MPDs, still clears up almost completely with just the Batmos though.

jdgleason · Nov 23, 2013

Beans71086 said:
Yep, definitely more fuel in the MPDs, still clears up almost completely with just the Batmos though.

Good to know!

Cleans up... Out there lol

blk350on20s · Nov 24, 2013

I absolutely hated my truck when it had 60hp in it. I know I jumped way up with 60% but the whole driveability of the truck improved. Did you notice any of that?

jdgleason · Nov 24, 2013

blk350on20s said:
I absolutely hated my truck when it had 60hp in it. I know I jumped way up with 60% but the whole driveability of the truck improved. Did you notice any of that?

What did you hate about them? What improved with the 60%?

HOOV3R · Nov 24, 2013

Beans71086 said:
So a lot of you know that we did a small biuld last winter, the biuld included; pistons, head studs, pushrods, springs, elite 15% nozzles, HP and LP Batmos.

Before the biuld my personal best at the track was 12.89, that was just tuning, intake, and exhaust. After the biuld I couldn't even get into the 12s! I couldn't figure out what was wrong, RP and boost were great, no exhaust or boost leaks, it just puzzled me and everyone I talked to.

Below is the slip for best after my biuld: