No problem sir, id probably also change out the glow plug harnesses while youre there. The passenger side one looks like ****...
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Yeah I know haha, it was new too, I’ll be making a parts list and I’ll post it up, check back and give me some input on if I’m on the right track.. Please and thanks! Always good to have a lot of feedback. I know a 6.4 will never “last” I just want a little bit more life out of it for at least more than 2 years lol
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Yes sir, no problem. As much of an ass sootie can seem, he knows his **** on these. He would be one of the guys on here id be listening to about aftermarket stuff on them. Ive mostly done stockish stuff being at the dealer for so long.
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...I hope you two are still friends after that! Lol JK.. I only really follow a couple guys and he’s definitely one of them..for sure.. nice to know that theres a lot of helping hands.. honestly this forums helped out BIG TIME.
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Lol, he says a lot of stuff id find coming out of my mouth, I just imagine with him it smells like maple syrup and has quite a few more ehs ending sentences...
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So I took the heads off today. A few things
To start the ARP 2000 studs that were put in by the machine shop.. are CHIT.. half of them I couldn’t get out of the block even with my hex/Allen head on a 3/8 rachet with a pipe extender.. I broke the tip off in one, and tried to get it out and ruined that one stud now I need a whole new set of studs unless someone has 1 stud to sell.. I’m so P’d about that..
Did they really over torque it? Or is this common. Half of them I could turn by hand, half were so stuck in there.. I know it says hand tight and some guys zip it down.. but jesus.. that was tight!!! Also, there was a lot of oil on those studs.. I cleaned everything up before taking the heads off and I know oil didn’t fall into those holes.. is this a sign of a cracked block? All the oil in the stud holes? Like I’d take them out and they would be smothered in oil.. is this normal?
1.) the injector tips have an awful lot of carbon and what causes that? Big PW tunes?
2.) the number 1 glow plug, was so hard to get out. I get it out and it’s covered in dirt..mud.. WTF? I remember putting it in and it wasn’t like that lol. What on earth causes that and why would it of bent? Is something inside the head breaking down?
3.) the piston tops are also full of carbon.. how do I remove it without removing the ceramic coating? Also what causes that?
4.) the cylinder walls have some scoring that’s light but I can feel it with the tip of my mini flat head screwdriver.. causes? Rings not gapped right? Is this a big deal? And can it just get a re hone?
5.) THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.. my issue was blowing coolant like crazy, I think I saw a couple small small cracks in the valve seats I can’t tell (I’m bringing to a machine shop to flux them) WHERE does anyone see any signs of a bad HG.. this is my first time having this issue and not a professional so can someone with experience tell me where it looks blown.. tbh.. I was really hoping to see a wore out section...
The head gasket was actual cracked in half, where the push rods go through.. as if it was cut with a pair of side cutters.. what causes that? But that area is not in the combustion chamber so I doubt it has anything to do with the blowing coolant correct??
Please and thanks. And also anything else you see.. thanks!
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To start the ARP 2000 studs that were put in by the machine shop.. are CHIT.. half of them I couldn’t get out of the block even with my hex/Allen head on a 3/8 rachet with a pipe extender.. I broke the tip off in one, and tried to get it out and ruined that one stud now I need a whole new set of studs unless someone has 1 stud to sell.. I’m so P’d about that..
Did they really over torque it? Or is this common. Half of them I could turn by hand, half were so stuck in there.. I know it says hand tight and some guys zip it down.. but jesus.. that was tight!!! Also, there was a lot of oil on those studs.. I cleaned everything up before taking the heads off and I know oil didn’t fall into those holes.. is this a sign of a cracked block? All the oil in the stud holes? Like I’d take them out and they would be smothered in oil.. is this normal?
1.) the injector tips have an awful lot of carbon and what causes that? Big PW tunes?
2.) the number 1 glow plug, was so hard to get out. I get it out and it’s covered in dirt..mud.. WTF? I remember putting it in and it wasn’t like that lol. What on earth causes that and why would it of bent? Is something inside the head breaking down?
3.) the piston tops are also full of carbon.. how do I remove it without removing the ceramic coating? Also what causes that?
4.) the cylinder walls have some scoring that’s light but I can feel it with the tip of my mini flat head screwdriver.. causes? Rings not gapped right? Is this a big deal? And can it just get a re hone?
5.) THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE.. my issue was blowing coolant like crazy, I think I saw a couple small small cracks in the valve seats I can’t tell (I’m bringing to a machine shop to flux them) WHERE does anyone see any signs of a bad HG.. this is my first time having this issue and not a professional so can someone with experience tell me where it looks blown.. tbh.. I was really hoping to see a wore out section...
The head gasket was actual cracked in half, where the push rods go through.. as if it was cut with a pair of side cutters.. what causes that? But that area is not in the combustion chamber so I doubt it has anything to do with the blowing coolant correct??
Please and thanks. And also anything else you see.. thanks!
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Heads are off at the machine shop,
Purchased a set of A-1 H11 Studs from from No Limit Diesel, awesome deal, thanks Jeff.
And a Coolant filter, Odawg Intake and Oem oil cooler from Rudys, Thanks Randall and Zack. And Congrats on the Baby Boy Randall!
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Purchased a set of A-1 H11 Studs from from No Limit Diesel, awesome deal, thanks Jeff.
And a Coolant filter, Odawg Intake and Oem oil cooler from Rudys, Thanks Randall and Zack. And Congrats on the Baby Boy Randall!
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Looks good. Having just rebuilt mine a month ago I feel the pain.
Had I listened to sootie on my build even after having a "pro" check it out, I would have saved $4k in doing things twice...
I'm curious how your heads check out. I was surprised mine had to be completely re-done after putting 30k on a rebuild.
Had I listened to sootie on my build even after having a "pro" check it out, I would have saved $4k in doing things twice...
I'm curious how your heads check out. I was surprised mine had to be completely re-done after putting 30k on a rebuild.
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What would you of done differently? Or twice as you say? And me too. Sootie is the ****!
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I have a bit different setup.. stage 2 cam that the mfg says should work without valve reliefs in the pistons. Turns out it won't work, and he was the one that told me about it while the engine was on the stand. I didn't listen. I paid for it.
Other than that it seems you are in good hands with Shane. Wish I had the $ to get into one of his custom turbo setups.
Other than that it seems you are in good hands with Shane. Wish I had the $ to get into one of his custom turbo setups.
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Lessons learned right? I hope your build runs good. I’ll let you know about the heads.
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ODAWGS intake just came in, along with the H11 Studs, and all new gaskets top to bottom.
This is going to be fun!!! Love the products
Shout out to Rudy’s and No Limit!
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This is going to be fun!!! Love the products
Shout out to Rudy’s and No Limit!
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So I pulled the bed plate off to re seal it. Super upset with how my Mahle Clevite bearings look. Only have 35,000km on them. They were new in the dynamic diesel stage 1 kit I got. And I’m really hoping the machine shop that built it before used a lot of lube.
Super upset now I have to do a lot more work that I don’t have time for, and wasn’t expecting to get this deep.
New main bearings on the way I guess lol..
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Super upset now I have to do a lot more work that I don’t have time for, and wasn’t expecting to get this deep.
New main bearings on the way I guess lol..
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Damn, those look like **** for pretty much no miles. Youre not running bedplate studs, are you? And do you know if the machine shop align honed the mains? If they did, and you are running studs in it, the studs need to be I stalled when align honing, as they distort the main bore slightly.So I pulled the bed plate off to re seal it. Super upset with how my Mahle Clevite bearings look. Only have 35,000km on them. They were new in the dynamic diesel stage 1 kit I got. And I’m really hoping the machine shop that built it before used a lot of lube.
Super upset now I have to do a lot more work that I don’t have time for, and wasn’t expecting to get this deep.
New main bearings on the way I guess lol..
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No bed plate studs and no was not line honed.. and yeah I figured they look like crap..
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Probably definitely get it line honed this time, or at least checked.
35k km is what about 20k miles? Ive pulled 200k bearings out that look better than that...
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I don’t think my machine shop is capable.. can I just throw in new std bearings?
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You can, but with the way those look like they're worn, its only gonna be a matter of time fore they catastrophically fail.
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