P!P v8 3-4 Released!

Parker brothers · Mar 13, 2016

jwank11, I sent them a message about that knock when you launch hard I was told "to make more power, levels 3 and 4 have more timing in them" I just wonder if this is bad for the truck because like you said it sounds like very loud detonation

20156point7 · Mar 13, 2016

I haven't noticed a knock but I haven't done a hard launch yet either.

jwanck11 · Mar 13, 2016

Parker brothers said:
jwank11, I sent them a message about that knock when you launch hard I was told "to make more power, levels 3 and 4 have more timing in them" I just wonder if this is bad for the truck because like you said it sounds like very loud detonation

Yeah, the timing is evident alright! Detonation is never a good thing. If this were my EB, the oil would already be in a puddle on the ground having run out through a newly opened window....

I am going to ask him to take out some timing. I did not see the ability to adjust globally in the available SCT options.

The shifting alone is worth the trouble of keeping these tunes.

BIG JUICE · Mar 14, 2016

motor definitely lopes and timing sounds way different on the level 3 vs 2 tunes.

Parker brothers · Mar 14, 2016

Just sounds like injectors rattling, I'm not sure if that's all it is and if that is bad for the truck.

jwalk09 · Mar 14, 2016

Well doesn't sound like good news lol

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theplumber · Mar 15, 2016

Damn . The thing you said is the level 3 and 4 are not safe ?

Notneb · Mar 15, 2016

theplumber said:
Damn . The thing you said is the level 3 and 4 are not safe ?

I've yet to encounter any probs, but I don't do WOT launches, which seems to be where the issues are coming from.

jwanck11 · Mar 16, 2016

Notneb said:
I've yet to encounter any probs, but I don't do WOT launches, which seems to be where the issues are coming from.

The issues are coming from moderate launches as well as from low speeds where moderate pedal is applied. This is not a WOT issue. I am very surprised you are not experiencing the issue as it seems pretty widespread. I wonder what the difference is!

20156point7 · Mar 16, 2016

I noticed today at around half throttle I had some really loud injector rattle. I have also noticed when it shifts to third and the engine is cold the turbo will jump from 8 to 17lbs of boost for no reason. But when the engine is warm is wont do it.

BIG JUICE · Mar 16, 2016

20156point7 said:
I noticed today at around half throttle I had some really loud injector rattle. I have also noticed when it shifts to third and the engine is cold the turbo will jump from 8 to 17lbs of boost for no reason. But when the engine is warm is wont do it.

You running level 3? If so I noticed backpressure will sky rocket if you lean into it at partial throttle. Like upper 40s and up to 55psi. I think I'm going back to level 2. I don't know enough about this engine to assume that's ok. Drive pressure and back pressure were about equal for conversations sake on level 2. The spike to 50psi with boost way down waiting for turbo to spool sounds just like what you describe.

20156point7 · Mar 16, 2016

BIG JUICE said:
You running level 3? If so I noticed backpressure will sky rocket if you lean into it at partial throttle. Like upper 40s and up to 55psi. I think I'm going back to level 2. I don't know enough about this engine to assume that's ok. Drive pressure and back pressure were about equal for conversations sake on level 2. The spike to 50psi with boost way down waiting for turbo to spool sounds just like what you describe.

no I'm running level 4. The tune rips it is by far the most powerful tune I have ever had on this truck but I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing from what I'm hearing.

jwalk09 · Mar 16, 2016

Yeh I'm going to stay with level 2. Haven't had any problems so far. May end up with spar tunes ...

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Notneb · Mar 16, 2016

jwalk09 said:
Yeh I'm going to stay with level 2. Haven't had any problems so far. May end up with spar tunes ...

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There may or may not be a $partan vs P!P v8 comparison soon, if you'd like to wait...

BIG JUICE · Mar 17, 2016

Notneb said:
There may or may not be a $partan vs P!P v8 comparison soon, if you'd like to wait...

perfect!

jwalk09 · Mar 17, 2016

Notneb said:
There may or may not be a $partan vs P!P v8 comparison soon, if you'd like to wait...

I'll be waiting. Think I already know what the outcome will be

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Parker brothers · Mar 17, 2016

waiting

Notneb · Mar 17, 2016

As soon as it gets here, I'll let y'all know, but just be warned: This will be extensive testing, so it'll still be about a week after that before I have concrete results to post.

I will be making a new thread for the comparison obviously, but feel free to PM me any requests that you think are special to your case. I will try and get a hold of a trailer to test the towing characteristics of each level, because I see that question pop up a lot.

Now... we wait!

FordPSD64 · Mar 17, 2016

Notneb said:
As soon as it gets here, I'll let y'all know, but just be warned: This will be extensive testing, so it'll still be about a week after that before I have concrete results to post.

I will be making a new thread for the comparison obviously, but feel free to PM me any requests that you think are special to your case. I will try and get a hold of a trailer to test the towing characteristics of each level, because I see that question pop up a lot.

Now... we wait!