penny pincher 7.3L

POWER-STRUCK · Dec 30, 2012

could do some damage if it has the stock coast clutch and stock torque converter, i can do it but just warning ya

Petro · Dec 30, 2012

I See what your sayin

POWER-STRUCK · Dec 30, 2012

keep the ideas coming suggestions are welcome

POWER-STRUCK · Jan 5, 2013

POWER-STRUCK said:
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PDT1081 · Jan 5, 2013

POWER-STRUCK said:
could you make a suggestion on what tune you would like to see in place of it?

Drive thru tune.

Or a Teen Driver Tune. Limit rate of acceleration, top speed, and power. The hard part will be figuring out the slap upside the head for doing something stupid :morons:

dentexpowerstroke · Jan 15, 2013

First, in order to transfer the energy of the moving vehicle to the engine during deceleration, two things must occur: the torque converter must remain locked, and the coast clutch must be engaged. The problem with this is that the coast clutch on a stock transmission only has 3 friction plates, and these are smaller than the standard forward clutches. On 2001 and later transmissions, you also run the possibility of damaging the intermediate sprag or "diode," which will result in an immediate transmission teardown. Again, lightly loaded vehicles would have less of a problem with this, but the general idea of an exhaust brake is to be able to slow larger loads without overheating the standard brake system. It is these types of loads that can cause transmission damage. Obviously, a manual transmission would be free from these types of situations.

Second, whenever you increase exhaust backpressure, you need to make sure that the exhaust valve springs are capable of preventing the pressure in the exhaust system from lifting the exhaust valve from the valve seat, as this would result in a collision with the piston. Normal valve spring seat pressure is 70-75 PSI for NEW valve springs and deteriorates from there. Given that the surface area of the back of the exhaust valve is approximately 1.9 square inches, it would take only 40 PSI of exhaust pressure to lift the valve off the seat, even with new valve springs.
To put it simply, if you plan to use an exhaust brake, either through the use of the EBV or by purchasing an aftermarket stand alone unit, you will need to consider the condition of your transmission and exhaust valve springs in order to ensure safe, reliable operation.

Best info I have seen on the decel tune. I would say a drive thru tune would be better than decel or smoke, don't feed the dbags that think it's cool to smoke everywhere.
Are your chips able to be reburned by any tuner that can tune a ts chip?

POWER-STRUCK · Jan 15, 2013

First, in order to transfer the energy of the moving vehicle to the engine during deceleration, two things must occur: the torque converter must remain locked, and the coast clutch must be engaged. The problem with this is that the coast clutch on a stock transmission only has 3 friction plates, and these are smaller than the standard forward clutches. On 2001 and later transmissions, you also run the possibility of damaging the intermediate sprag or "diode," which will result in an immediate transmission teardown. Again, lightly loaded vehicles would have less of a problem with this, but the general idea of an exhaust brake is to be able to slow larger loads without overheating the standard brake system. It is these types of loads that can cause transmission damage. Obviously, a manual transmission would be free from these types of situations.

Second, whenever you increase exhaust backpressure, you need to make sure that the exhaust valve springs are capable of preventing the pressure in the exhaust system from lifting the exhaust valve from the valve seat, as this would result in a collision with the piston. Normal valve spring seat pressure is 70-75 PSI for NEW valve springs and deteriorates from there. Given that the surface area of the back of the exhaust valve is approximately 1.9 square inches, it would take only 40 PSI of exhaust pressure to lift the valve off the seat, even with new valve springs.
To put it simply, if you plan to use an exhaust brake, either through the use of the EBV or by purchasing an aftermarket stand alone unit, you will need to consider the condition of your transmission and exhaust valve springs in order to ensure safe, reliable operation.

Best info I have seen on the decel tune. I would say a drive thru tune would be better than decel or smoke, don't feed the dbags that think it's cool to smoke everywhere.
Are your chips able to be reburned by any tuner that can tune a ts chip?

thank you for posting that info! it will be valuable information for those whom are using a decel tune and were misinformed about possible side effects.
I would also like to see a transmission specialist post their opinion if a stock transmission can handle those loads.

POWER-STRUCK · Jan 24, 2013

[QUOTEAre your chips able to be reburned by any tuner that can tune a ts chip?

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these chips cannot be reflashed with a ts burner but services for ts chips are available

99 ol'red · Jan 27, 2013

How much more h.p. On average?

POWER-STRUCK · Jan 27, 2013

99 ol'red said:
How much more h.p. On average?

choose what increase you want it programmed for

lincolnlocker · Feb 18, 2013

these tunes change transmission line pressures also? my brother has an 2002 7.3 auto and it came with a edge tuner/monitor. he wants something more like what we all have but doesn't have the 400-500 for a full set of custom tunes so if these tunes will equal the edge tunes only better transmission holding he wouldn't mind trying one of these eventually. also i looked at the switch... is it a two position switch so that you are either in lets say the 100hp tune or the 140hp tune? with no stock setting or is it actually a 3 position with stock being one of the settings? also will he still be able to use his edge monitor for monitor purposes only and not in any performance setting?

POWER-STRUCK · Feb 19, 2013

yes the transmission parameters can be adjusted to fit your needs. and i will allow minor tuning requests to be fulfilled with the penny pincher line at no additional charge. the penny pincher was intended for as an entry level tuning product at a low price without full custom tuning (great product for people that want simplicity along with good tuning)

the switch allows you to request 2 different settings such as (stock/100) or (high idle/50) or (50/100) ect ect

you should be able to use the monitor along with the chip but i do not recommend stacking for horse power purposes

dirtflinger92 · Feb 19, 2013

Can you get a video of a truck running these tunes by chance?

lincolnlocker · Feb 19, 2013

POWER-STRUCK said:
yes the transmission parameters can be adjusted to fit your needs. and i will allow minor tuning requests to be fulfilled with the penny pincher line at no additional charge. the penny pincher was intended for as an entry level tuning product at a low price without full custom tuning (great product for people that want simplicity along with good tuning)

the switch allows you to request 2 different settings such as (stock/100) or (high idle/50) or (50/100) ect ect

you should be able to use the monitor along with the chip but i do not recommend stacking for horse power purposes

lmao! stacking a 7.3 never crossed my mind... thanks for the answer.. ill pass it along to my brother and see what he wants to do... im guessing that he will say as high as he can go hp wise and not hurt the transmission. he doesnt drive like me or most of us on here... kinda like an old grandpa!! hell my rclb was his and it needed a clutch when he bought it and he drove for 80k before i bought it from him... i slip the clutch all the time in the dam thing and he never did even towing 18k...

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