Swamps 7.3 common rail

Gearhead · Mar 25, 2013

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
bigger valves.. would be sweet!

you could get stupid with it and do a twisted wedge design and actually splay the valves and you could possibly do that. There is no room to do it and keep the valves in line like they are now.

DocBar · Mar 25, 2013

Gearhead said:
If you designed a common rail head for the 7.3 that took the little pencil injectors, you would eliminate the issue of the ports having to go around the injector boss and thus have a bunch more flow potential.

Matt, what do you think the R&D would cost to develop a set of heads like this? It could be fairly cost effective to produce the head, but getting the thing engineered properly would be high, I would think.

Powerstroke Cowboy · Mar 25, 2013

That would be cool!! Plus like you said you could just plain outright have a better flowing head as far as the ports go. Would really go good with one of your cams

DocBar · Mar 25, 2013

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
That would be cool!! Plus like you said you could just plain outright have a better flowing head as far as the ports go. Would really go good with one of your cams

Cams don't do anything...geez....

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Powerstroke Cowboy · Mar 25, 2013

DocBar said:
Cams don't do anything...geez....oke:

Then pull your out and send it to me.... I will send you back a stocker.

nasty6.6 · Mar 25, 2013

opcorn:

DocBar · Mar 25, 2013

Powerstroke Cowboy said:
Then pull your out and send it to me.... I will send you back a stocker.

That's a negative, Ghostrider!! The pattern is full. :flipa:

Viking · Mar 26, 2013

So do these get fully machined?

Gearhead · Mar 26, 2013

DocBar said:
Matt, what do you think the R&D would cost to develop a set of heads like this? It could be fairly cost effective to produce the head, but getting the thing engineered properly would be high, I would think.

I think empire would be the ones to talk to on this.

strokin'_tatsch · Mar 26, 2013

Gearhead said:
you could get stupid with it and do a twisted wedge design and actually splay the valves and you could possibly do that. There is no room to do it and keep the valves in line like they are now.

Some aluminum twisted wedge 7.3L heads w/ some nice roller rockers would be awesome, but I'm imagining a $10k+ price tag that nobody would ever pay for. LOL

TyCorr · Mar 26, 2013

strokin'_tatsch said:
Some aluminum twisted wedge 7.3L heads w/ some nice roller rockers would be awesome, but I'm imagining a $10k+ price tag that nobody would ever pay for. LOL

Shti, Travis, the cleaned up ones are close to 5 with yours as cores. So 6200 for jazzed up.stockers.

strokin'_tatsch · Mar 26, 2013

TyCorr said:
Shti, Travis, the cleaned up ones are close to 5 with yours as cores. So 6200 for jazzed up.stockers.

To think I only have about $2200 in some CNC 205cc Twisted Wedge heads for my SBF 408w with titanium retainers, different springs, and milling.. God I love parts availability for gassers. LOL

6point0damn2004 · Mar 26, 2013

strokin'_tatsch said:
Some aluminum twisted wedge 7.3L heads w/ some nice roller rockers would be awesome, but I'm imagining a $10k+ price tag that nobody would ever pay for. LOL

I wouldn't say "nobody" but you could prolly count on both hands the number of people that might

strokin'_tatsch · Mar 26, 2013

6point0damn2004 said:
I wouldn't say "nobody" but you could prolly count on both hands the number of people that might

Yes, bad wording on my part. I actually think you could count on one hand the amount of people that would have it, but yeah...

PDT1081 · Mar 26, 2013

strokin'_tatsch said:
Some aluminum twisted wedge 7.3L heads w/ some nice roller rockers would be awesome, but I'm imagining a $10k+ price tag that nobody would ever pay for. LOL

I think you missed a "0" on your estimate. At least for the first set. After the first set the price would probably come down becaue the R&D would be covered, but you'd still be looking at a large chunk of change. You're probably looking at at least 10 sets before you could find someone actually interested in casting them for you.

DocBar · Mar 26, 2013

Gearhead said:
I think empire would be the ones to talk to on this.

Am I thinking right that this would have to be a fully re-engineered head? I can't wrap my mind around a way to do this without starting from scratch with a totally new design. If this is the case, why not look at the reverse flow of the 6.7? Could there be some advantages to gain there? If we're reinventing the 7.3, might as well consider everything on the market today.

:thumbsup:

STROKIN N STYLE · Mar 27, 2013

Hey guys. Were shooting for TS this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that its ready, I'm ready for some seat time and am chomping at the bit to run my truck again. Its been a long wait but I have no doubt it'll be worth it!

With the new can design that Swamps has been working on as well as head porting I think the air flow should be there. They have been making huge gains with 7.3's on their engine dyno. The new turbos should be on the CR motor soon so some huge numbers should be coming soon. Its coming down to the wire for TS but I have all the faith in the team at Swamps to get it done! Thank you guys for showing interest in this long journey!

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