I really think ATS used to be a good tranny builder. I think they have enlisted some cheaper parts and cheaper help. I think they have gone way downhill, but maybe that is starting to turn around. Im pretty sure the big hp trucks they still have, the trannies were built by their top shelf tranny builders, not the normal guys, and i think they use different parts. I had a buddy with one of their trannys in a 450ish horse dodge and he went through 5 trannies and 7 trips to ATS in 5 months. It took a lawyer and some hook ups before they refunded his money. Plus, they have their lawyers business card at the reception desk if that tells you anything.