Trading my '12 for a '16 tomorrow

[TrickTruck]

Looks like I'm going to be trading my '12 in tomorrow.

Going to take everything off and put it back to stock. Then put all my goodies (see signature) on the '16. Everything should be a direct fit except the minimax.

Any idea of what problems I'll have getting everything working again stock (*** - on)?

Also, I see the EPA is blowing it's wad all over good companies again. Is there anything left for tuning or do I just have to live with the ***? Hate that idea...

 

[BK39]

Why a 16 and not a 17? Being a guy with a camper...........the camera system, TPMS for trailer, and massaging seats should sell you on the 17 all day long. Yes they are more $$$, but it'll retain resale value much better down the road.

I didn't have any issues putting my 13 back to stock. Pain the ass trying to remember all the plugs, but go slow, and it's okay.

 

[TrickTruck]

Because none of my goodies will fit and there is no way I've got $30k for all new stuff.
I like my front bumper and don't have time/$ to start over.

 

[bigrpowr]

Looks like I'm going to be trading my '12 in tomorrow.

Going to take everything off and put it back to stock. Then put all my goodies (see signature) on the '16. Everything should be a direct fit except the minimax.

Any idea of what problems I'll have getting everything working again stock (*** - on)?

Also, I see the EPA is blowing it's wad all over good companies again. Is there anything left for tuning or do I just have to live with the ***? Hate that idea...

hit me up .

 

[Tom@BigTimeKustomz]

Congrats man. You get same cab/bed configuration?


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[TrickTruck]

Yea, all the same.

Currently at war w/ wifey over this. She is not onboard.
Increase in debt by $30k, decrease pmt by $100/mo, increase term by 5yr.

Do it and deal with the consequences....or sink $30k into the '12 and watch it flutter out the window.

 

[CATDiezel]

Yea, all the same.

Currently at war w/ wifey over this. She is not onboard.
Increase in debt by $30k, decrease pmt by $100/mo, increase term by 5yr.

Do it and deal with the consequences....or sink $30k into the '12 and watch it flutter out the window.

I gotta ask. How is the 12 fluttering out the window? And why does the 12 need $30k?

Sure the amenities of the 16' will be nice but not 30k nice. You could do a 15 turbo and pump upgrade and live happily ever after. You have a very nice truck.

But... I also understand both sides. I just wouldn't make a decision based on the fact you already had it in your mind. I wish I would have listened to my wife when she was not on board on several of my purchases over time!! Haha.

Financially your in a much better place if you put it in your mind of buckling down and keeping the 12 long term and not "worrying" about value.

You have put a tremendous amount of work into your 12! Wow. That would be a mountain of work to redo!

 

[morepower02]

Why sink 30 into the 2012?

 

[08Monster]

You could redo the entire truck for 30. Lol what are you possibly going to buy to put 30 into it


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[TrickTruck]

It's at turbo dying mileage. That's $5-6k if I catch it in time, dies, spits parts thru the engine and we have another story. Since I don't have $6k right now, chances of driving it until it blows are good.

Brakes on the '12 were never all that hot, towing a big toyhauler, it's' noticeable. $6k there. Std brake job, which is probably due soon is $1k.

Piece of **** Kenwood sucks dirty ball sack. Upgrades there to like a '13 dash/stereo are in the $3-4k range.

Then there's the 70k service which is almost due = $1k-$1.5k

Put all these upgrades into the '12 and that's a pile of money, some can be pushed off, but some...not. Est min mandatory in the next year is $9-10k. Divvy that up to a monthly and it's another truck pmt. And the '12 will never be worth a penny more no matter what you put in it. Upgrades just don't equate to value in the consumer's mind.

Changing over all my goodies to a new truck won't be more than 2-3 days work and won't cost zip other than a new tuner...assuming any tuners are left in the world. May just have to run the D P F on.

Bunch of good reasons to side step into a new truck. I've got a deal all worked out with a dealer, getting $35k for mine which I feel is not great, but not horrible either.


Maybe I'll take all my **** off, sell it for 60% and sell the truck by itself. Go back to driving my 23yr old Toyota pu.

 

[CATDiezel]

Whoa! That better be a HS turbo with tunes at 5-6k!

I'm assuming your speaking of paying someone to do all that work at those prices.

However. I do hear you on the new truck. But if your in a situation where money is that tight it may be best to take an overall look at the whole situation(lifestyle). Not trying to pry into your business man. Just hate seeing folks get in a bind over a truck.

Fwiw. You can quickly tune a 16.... plenty of tuners. One call to Mike and it's a done deal.

 

[TrickTruck]

The midwest 65.5, pipes & tune w/ a pump is $6k, I can do the work. I even have a BD Brake to put in it.

Prices I've seen in '13+ dash assy is $1.5k, plus the headunit.

I don't see getting a brake job finished under $1k even doing all the labor myself.

70k service I'll let my stealer do. Just too much fluids to keep and dispose of properly. I've run the numbers on oil changes and I can't do it myself any cheaper. Plus dealing w/ 13qts of oil.

 

[Jacob @ No Limit]

I did front and rear brakes for $180-$200. Rotors were just fine, no reason to replace my calipers, good set of pads aren't that expensive.

 

[Jacob @ No Limit]

And you could go with a stock 2015 turbo swap with piping kit and not do the pump. You'll still have a noticeable bump in power. I'd almost rather keep a truck with a mini max on it, lots of custom tune options. Unless you'd plan on a ez lynk on the 16.

 

[morepower02]

It's at turbo dying mileage. That's $5-6k if I catch it in time, dies, spits parts thru the engine and we have another story. Since I don't have $6k right now, chances of driving it until it blows are good.

Brakes on the '12 were never all that hot, towing a big toyhauler, it's' noticeable. $6k there. Std brake job, which is probably due soon is $1k.

Piece of **** Kenwood sucks dirty ball sack. Upgrades there to like a '13 dash/stereo are in the $3-4k range.

Then there's the 70k service which is almost due = $1k-$1.5k

Put all these upgrades into the '12 and that's a pile of money, some can be pushed off, but some...not. Est min mandatory in the next year is $9-10k. Divvy that up to a monthly and it's another truck pmt. And the '12 will never be worth a penny more no matter what you put in it. Upgrades just don't equate to value in the consumer's mind.

Changing over all my goodies to a new truck won't be more than 2-3 days work and won't cost zip other than a new tuner...assuming any tuners are left in the world. May just have to run the D P F on.

Bunch of good reasons to side step into a new truck. I've got a deal all worked out with a dealer, getting $35k for mine which I feel is not great, but not horrible either.


Maybe I'll take all my **** off, sell it for 60% and sell the truck by itself. Go back to driving my 23yr old Toyota pu.

Smh...you'll be in the same shape in another three years..

 

[psduser1]

It's at turbo dying mileage. That's $5-6k if I catch it in time, dies, spits parts thru the engine and we have another story. Since I don't have $6k right now, chances of driving it until it blows are good.

Brakes on the '12 were never all that hot, towing a big toyhauler, it's' noticeable. $6k there. Std brake job, which is probably due soon is $1k.

Piece of **** Kenwood sucks dirty ball sack. Upgrades there to like a '13 dash/stereo are in the $3-4k range.

Then there's the 70k service which is almost due = $1k-$1.5k

Put all these upgrades into the '12 and that's a pile of money, some can be pushed off, but some...not. Est min mandatory in the next year is $9-10k. Divvy that up to a monthly and it's another truck pmt. And the '12 will never be worth a penny more no matter what you put in it. Upgrades just don't equate to value in the consumer's mind.

Changing over all my goodies to a new truck won't be more than 2-3 days work and won't cost zip other than a new tuner...assuming any tuners are left in the world. May just have to run the D P F on.

Bunch of good reasons to side step into a new truck. I've got a deal all worked out with a dealer, getting $35k for mine which I feel is not great, but not horrible either.


Maybe I'll take all my **** off, sell it for 60% and sell the truck by itself. Go back to driving my 23yr old Toyota pu.

Not trying to be a dik, but if you don't have 6k to fix your ride, you dam sure don't have the money for a new ride.

 

[dsmracing1]

The midwest 65.5, pipes & tune w/ a pump is $6k, I can do the work. I even have a BD Brake to put in it.

Prices I've seen in '13+ dash assy is $1.5k, plus the headunit.

I don't see getting a brake job finished under $1k even doing all the labor myself.

70k service I'll let my stealer do. Just too much fluids to keep and dispose of properly. I've run the numbers on oil changes and I can't do it myself any cheaper. Plus dealing w/ 13qts of oil.

Keep the truck man, you've got it personalized to how you like it! You'd be super happy with the upgrades. I did those engine upgrades and it cost me over 10K Canadian for what you said for just the turbo, piping and pump with tunes and that was all during yearly sales too! Gotta love being canadian haha.

 

[04cr450]

Keep the truck you would be foolish to get a new one. Being yours is a 12... that is considered still new to me... before I bought my 16 recently I kept my 04 for 12 years... by that time the truck was essentially paying me since I did not have a truck payment for 10 years. Keep the truck and be patient. 15 turbo and pump, new tunes and the truck will be entirely different in a wonderful way

 

[BuiltPowerStrokeTough]

Honestly, Id keep your truck man. Its good lookin truck and ALMOST set up the way you like it!!

Youre mentioning that money is tight and couldnt afford the $6k for a turbo swap. You also mentioned adding a more expensive turbo like the streetmax 65.5, piping and a tune. Really, if moneys tight, you dont have to buy all those things. Do you actually have a turbo problem or just wanting to upgrade? If you have an actual problem, you can install another 11-14 turbo for CHEAP. Likely for less than $1000 if you install it yourself. Theres a ton of low mileage take offs out there. Then you can save some money, completely pay off your current truck, and then buy all the goodies you really want down the road when the truck is paid off.

As far as things like maintenance goes, again, if you really cant justify or afford the maintenance as it is now, I sure wouldnt be looking at getting into a 2016. Youll just be in that same spot again in a few years anyways with more debt cause you bought a new truck. Youll be able to do the work yourself especially if you said you can do the turbo swap yourself. As far as fluid disposal, almost ANY oil change place or auto parts store will take all your used oils. If space is a concern in getting all the fluids in one spot, go buy one of those plastic storage totes from Target or Walmart and dump all your oils in there. Then take it to the stores and dump it. Done deal!

Stereo wise, why are you considering the whole dash change out? There are FAR better head units out there then the Ford one that can be dropped in for the price it will cost to swap a complete dash assembly and head unit. Hell, youd probably be able to upgrade the sub and speakers to for the amount it would cost you to convert to the newer Ford dash and head unit.

 

[Koda22]

Im like a few people in here, not trying to sound harsh, but if you can find the money to fix the truck you got, why in the world would you be looking to buy a new one? also like said sounds like some of the stuff you want to do is just stuff you want to do, not stuff that needs to be done.....so if you were to keep your truck and save a little money, you might be able to trick that truck out the way you want and still be cheaper in the long run, and also maybe have a truck that is paid for.