Truck slipping into 4th

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I have a 2011 f350 bone stock. Having issues with tranny it skips/hesitates going from 3rd to 4th gear. Does it hot and cold. Put two new batteries in it which seemed to have helped a bit but I’m still noticing it. Aside from the basics of checking the fluid level and condition any other ideas what to test? I do have access to autoengenuity, autel and forscan but didn’t see any trans related codes? I’m thinking maybe valve body? Any help is appreciated
 

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Sounds like the valve body. Most times though they have a hard shift at town speeds.

If you have access to forscan do a trans relearn and see if that takes care of the problem. If it doesn't I'd be willing to believe it's the valve body/solenoid.
 
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Well I did the reset and if anything it seems to have made it worse. Driving through town it shifted hard into second then slipped and rpms revved up before shifting into 4th. Any way to confirm it’s the valve body. Would hate to spend the $900 for it to be something else.
 

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Did you follow the specific process outlined for the rest? If it's bad solenoids in the valve body a reset will not help it.
 

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First, how does the fluid look and smell? I just went through a v/b issue. I had to pull mine and repair the 2/3 valve. It was hung open. No codes associated .
 
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Reset the tcm and have been driving it. Seems To be shifting better the more I drive? Fluid smells normal not dark or burnt either
 
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I have had the same problem with a hard shift into second for about 100k miles. I'm finally getting around to diagnosing and digging into it. I took it to a shop here in town that specializes in transmissions and they were totally perplexed. They dug through the computers, the filters, the fluid and couldn't figure it out. They thought that my H&S MiniMaxx had it programmed in the tunes so they looked through the tunes and didn't see anything, they looked through the factory shift points and didn't see anything, they cut the filter in half and didn't see anything. They came to the conclusion that it was bleeding pressure and needed a rebuild (for $8k). So I called ATS out of Denver and picked their brain. They said it's most likely a valve body and solenoid. They also mentioned they see these trucks throw solenoids and it's never the same one. I'll be going the valve body route and seeing if that fixes it. If it was a seal failure or pump failure I'm assuming it would've done it by now, since it's been doing it for 100k miles. I also tow a lot with my truck, as I'm a home builder so I'm moving equipment, tools and materials on a daily basis. The shop couldn't believe I had 366k miles on a factory 6R140 but ATS told me that's pretty normal.... I ordered the manual from Suncoast so I'll be reviewing that before doing the valve body and worst case scenario I'll rebuild it myself and buy a scanner and FordIDS and still be money ahead.
 

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I have had the same problem with a hard shift into second for about 100k miles. I'm finally getting around to diagnosing and digging into it. I took it to a shop here in town that specializes in transmissions and they were totally perplexed. They dug through the computers, the filters, the fluid and couldn't figure it out. They thought that my H&S MiniMaxx had it programmed in the tunes so they looked through the tunes and didn't see anything, they looked through the factory shift points and didn't see anything, they cut the filter in half and didn't see anything. They came to the conclusion that it was bleeding pressure and needed a rebuild (for $8k). So I called ATS out of Denver and picked their brain. They said it's most likely a valve body and solenoid. They also mentioned they see these trucks throw solenoids and it's never the same one. I'll be going the valve body route and seeing if that fixes it. If it was a seal failure or pump failure I'm assuming it would've done it by now, since it's been doing it for 100k miles. I also tow a lot with my truck, as I'm a home builder so I'm moving equipment, tools and materials on a daily basis. The shop couldn't believe I had 366k miles on a factory 6R140 but ATS told me that's pretty normal.... I ordered the manual from Suncoast so I'll be reviewing that before doing the valve body and worst case scenario I'll rebuild it myself and buy a scanner and FordIDS and still be money ahead.

I bet that hard shift is with light acceleration. The last 6R140 I saw with this problem a new valve body fixed the issue. It's been working great ever since.

Do the upgrades while you are rebuilding the valve body.

If you have a laptop, a data link cable fron USB to OBDll. Just downloaded Forscan (it's free) and get the free two month subscription and you can reprogram for a new valve body and do the needed relearn. If you rebuild your valve body just a relearn is all you should need. You might not even need that.
 

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