Vacuum Pump Service Kit Idea - Survey

[Wes Lewis]

My thought is what about running oil lines to and from the pump, basically like a turbo. Wouldnt really need to be a big line, just somethin to get oil flowing through. Haven't looked into the practicality of it at all or how it would work. Just a thought

 

[DZL JIM]

To build a better pump, it would have to be significantly different enough not to infringe on the OEM patent. Otherwise, it would be asking for legal troubles... A new pump would be a risky venture for a limited and shrinking market to begin with. Been there done that with our Torque Converters. That was known going in, but had the demand to make better designs worth it.
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It sucks starting from scratch. What about modifying a new pump and "fix" what's wrong with them? Nothing against patents doing that!

 

[strokin'_tatsch]

It sucks starting from scratch. What about modifying a new pump and "fix" what's wrong with them? Nothing against patents doing that!

That's what I was thinking. Start with a new pump and "fix" the problem. .

If it comes down to it, you could go to an electric pump. If the stock SD pump won't keep up with the vacuum brakes, there are plenty of aftermarket electric vacuum pumps out there by SSBC, Summit, etc, like we use on gassers that won't build vaccum, that are supposed to be good for street use and capable of supplying vacuum brake boosters. The aftermarket pumps are a bit more money, but if they work and are reliable, it would be worth it.

 

[purpleheart350]

Another thing you could do is find a way to modify the pump then patent the modification part and sell it to vacuum pump companies.

 

[Racer X]

That's what I was thinking. Start with a new pump and "fix" the problem. .

If it comes down to it, you could go to an electric pump. If the stock SD pump won't keep up with the vacuum brakes, there are plenty of aftermarket electric vacuum pumps out there by SSBC, Summit, etc, like we use on gassers that won't build vaccum, that are supposed to be good for street use and capable of supplying vacuum brake boosters. The aftermarket pumps are a bit more money, but if they work and are reliable, it would be worth it.

That's what I was thinking. Start with a new pump and "fix" the problem. .

If it comes down to it, you could go to an electric pump. If the stock SD pump won't keep up with the vacuum brakes, there are plenty of aftermarket electric vacuum pumps out there by SSBC, Summit, etc, like we use on gassers that won't build vaccum, that are supposed to be good for street use and capable of supplying vacuum brake boosters. The aftermarket pumps are a bit more money, but if they work and are reliable, it would be worth it.

Some good possible solutions.
Summit, I know doesn’t make anything - they are dealers of everything they sell. If you went with an aftermarket electric pump you’d need to go by the manufacturers stated uses. The brakes are dependent on it, so it’s a potential safety issue.

 

[Racer X]

It sucks starting from scratch. What about modifying a new pump and "fix" what's wrong with them? Nothing against patents doing that!

That is does. Stock converters aren't an existing design that can be fixed. Starting from scratch was the only way with them. Yup, patents don't prevent modifying an existing pump. If they did, no one could rebuild anything. A new pump could at the least, be fixed to live longer. :thumbup:

 

[zarrinvz24]

Has anyone ever tried to add a grease fitting to the Vacuum pump?

 

[gnxtc2]

Had mine seize up on me while towing on Route 78 in PA and chucked the belt.

I had to call a friend that lived an hour away to bring me a vacuum pump and belt. Changed everything while alongside the highway.

I say ditch the pump, go electric vacuum pump but need to make an idler pulley in place of the pump.

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[MossBack]

Or ditch it all and go hydra boost conversion... That is my plan one of these days


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[zarrinvz24]

Or ditch it all and go hydra boost conversion... That is my plan one of these days


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I think you will still need the vacuum pump to run your HVAC. You could do the SD electric vacuum pump conversion, but the idea of a pump with greasable bearings seems like it would be an even easier/cheaper fix.

 

[MossBack]

Oh yea.. I have owned my 97 for 7 years now and still I carry a spare ford pump and belt because I was stranded once. I have had the best luck with the ford pump vs oriellys pump...


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[Racer X]

Has anyone ever tried to add a grease fitting to the Vacuum pump?

I think you will still need the vacuum pump to run your HVAC. You could do the SD electric vacuum pump conversion, but the idea of a pump with greasable bearings seems like it would be an even easier/cheaper fix.

We didn't add a grease fitting because both the mechanical and electric pumps use a sealed bearing to keep water, dust, dirt etc. out. Grease can't get in either.
You can try greasing a sealed bearing by injecting grease between or through the seals using a needle fitting. You could try replacing it with an unsealed bearing so grease can enter. However without seals, a bearing is exposed to the elements.

Ideally, a grease fitting, grease able bearing and external seals could be fitted... Then it's on to the next weak link! ... :toast:

 

[Bux10]

Mine just went out a couple of weeks ago, I replaced it with a dorman vacumm pump from rock auto. It ran me about 80 bucks so far so good!

 

[79jasper]

Are these not like the idi vacuum pumps, where you can remove the bolt on the back and oil it?
Been told of some coming dry, and only lasting a few days.

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[kyle43335]

Ideas!!!

 

[leojr]

Anyone had luck in finding replacement wear parts so we could just rebuild at home?