Well S***

Sleepersilverado · Dec 3, 2017

So let's place bets on what is happening. Looks like motor is eating itself. Went to replace lower pan gasket to day only to uncover issues.

Ice Cream Sammich · Dec 3, 2017

Time to trade in!

Sleepersilverado · Dec 3, 2017

These last two pics have some crap in them that was already in the strainer on our oil drain cart.

So in the pan I found a pure pieces of black rubbery material. Not too large, then we found what looks like a part of a valve stem seal. But since I did not notice anything until I dumped the pan and looked at the pick up I am unsure if that rubber piece was in the pan.

Everything for the most part is super thin which makes me think bearing but nothing was discolored and no unusual noise.

DEEZUZ · Dec 3, 2017

Yup. I'd be quoting a new motor if that came through the shop. I just did one with much less in the pan but about 3x as much in the filter.

Sterling6.7 · Dec 3, 2017

What did you do to make it do that?

6.0 Tech · Dec 3, 2017

Had one of my good fleet customers have the same scenario. Doing a lower oil pan, found the same chit. Cant see anything with the design of the upper pan. He decided to keep an eye on it, and do oil analysis to keep an eye on if it was getting worse. He made it about 2 months/15k, before it finally chit. It was popping thru the intake, huge clouds coming out of the oil fill and intake, and knocking pretty bad. Didnt tear it down to see what happened, but ended up putting a drop in motor in.

co04cobra · Dec 3, 2017

I've got a few used engines if you end up wanting to explore options that way, shoot me a pm.

DEEZUZ · Dec 3, 2017

It's going to be a cam/lifter failure.

I thought we were done with this after 6.0/6.4 but it's still alive and well...

Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Dec 3, 2017

Year and miles?

Jonnydime · Dec 3, 2017

CTC DEEZUL said:
It's going to be a cam/lifter failure.

I thought we were done with this after 6.0/6.4 but it's still alive and well...

We just put a motor in our 12’ 550 that ate a lifter at 148k miles. 14,000 hours though.

redneck1 · Dec 3, 2017

Jonnydime said:
We just put a motor in our 12’ 550 that ate a lifter at 148k miles. 14,000 hours though.

That's impressive! Average 45 mph on 14,000 hours would be 630,000 miles. Wouldn't complain about that..

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Sleepersilverado · Dec 4, 2017

This is Morgans old single cab truck I bought from Cody back in September.

So the body has about 85K miles but the motor is built and I would suspect it don't have much for miles on it considering what it was built for. I would guess that it is the original lifters and cam, I cant find anything that says any different.

Funny part is not knowing an abundance about these engines my first thought was cam/lifters because I had a built gas motor truck that had a bad cam core that started flaking apart.

I was waiting on a piece to fix the waste gate and piping so I could start having fun again. Guess it will have to sit around for a while with the amount I have going on. When I get the 2 post lift re-positioned and hooked back up I guess i will go ahead and pull the cab.

DEEZUZ · Dec 4, 2017

This last one only had 81k, 6400 hours, 3500 idle hours

threegenpowerstroke98 · Dec 4, 2017

My truck did this. the second cam bearing puked and there was piles of metal in the oil. 2011's also had an issue with valves cracking too.

CATDiezel · Dec 4, 2017

So.... How many miles have you put on it since you bought it from Cody?

Sucks when stuff like this happens.

bigrpowr · Dec 4, 2017

ive had 2 built motors $hit the bed. one totally my fault , one had a forged piston grow. sucks for sure.

Sleepersilverado · Dec 4, 2017

From the picture I have of the odometer when I registered it to now about 337 miles.

Even if it was happening when Cody had it he would have never known because nothing came out when draining the oil. It was all in the pan.

Just reminds me of old times and why I told my self I was not doing performance stuff to my daily drivers anymore. I fixed the AC, then on thanksgiving I blew the metal flex connector to the waste gate and now this. Good thing it's not my daily.

bigrpowr · Dec 4, 2017

Sleepersilverado said:
From the picture I have of the odometer when I registered it to now about 337 miles.

Even if it was happening when Cody had it he would have never known because nothing came out when draining the oil. It was all in the pan.

Just reminds me of old times and why I told my self I was not doing performance stuff to my daily drivers anymore. I fixed the AC, then on thanksgiving I blew the metal flex connector to the waste gate and now this. Good thing it's not my daily.

i wish morgan was around so i could bust his balls

Six_Sloww · Dec 5, 2017

Hate to see that... The pan was off the truck MAYBE 3000 miles ago to put the drain for the atmo turbo in and I've done 2 oil changes since then and never saw anything metallic. I never chopped a filter, but never had a reason to.

Six_Sloww · Dec 5, 2017

Possibly shavings from drilling and tapping the upper pan? Obviously you would hope that stuff was properly cleaned up but I'm just thinking of scenarios that are less serious than bearing or lifter failure.

The heads were just off too, so no signs of anything at the time but I can't say if the lifters were looked at or not.