What size turbo with 190/100 & air dog filter #

ahardiek · Jan 14, 2016

I'm currently running some warren 190/100s and an s366 and was wondering if anyone had a better turbo suggestion that would allow me to tow without such high EGTs. Looking to hook to a 26 foot gooseneck with my buddy's cummins on it.

Also does anyone know the cross referenced part number for the airdog filters for say Baldwin, Wix, or any other filters?

thanks!

mattman347 · Jan 15, 2016

The 366sxe unit has been doing a lot better than the standard 366 with its new compressor and turbine design. Quicker spool and great flow. Towing is possible but you will have to have a good tune and be able to "drive". We carry the kits and turbos in stock if you are interested.
http://www.iratediesel.com/store/buy-online/?slug=index&cPath=27_56

Strokethis213 · Jan 15, 2016

I switched to the sxe and it's a big diffrence

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FarmWithAFord · Jan 15, 2016

FF100 2 Micron - Fleetgard FF5613
FF100 10 Micron - Fleetgard FF5617

WS100 - Fleetgard FS1976

Cross numbers for Fleetgards

swinky · Jan 15, 2016

Who's tunes op?

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ahardiek · Jan 18, 2016

I have tunes from Vivian and Eric

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ahardiek · Jan 19, 2016

Another thought I had was is anyone running a Barder stage 2.5 with 190/100s and what power numbers are? if I go back to vgt

kwelch08 · Jan 19, 2016

With a good tow tune you could run a Kc stage 3 68mm with those injectors and have a pretty mean truck.

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strokin6L · Jan 20, 2016

The reason for high egts is the 100% nozzles on the injectors...a little over kill. Guys complain about it all the time. Really shouldn't go any bigger than 75% nozzles on a 190cc injector.

KCTurbos · Jan 20, 2016

What kind of egts are you seeing?
At what RPMS are you struggling?
What size tires/lift/gears?

The three things that would help the most are...
going to a smaller turbo (vgt or non-vgt)
going to a smaller nozzle (30% would help)
re-gear if you are running bigger tires.

The ultimate combo would be to build a set of compounds with a smaller HP turbo and bigger LP turbo. Then you get the best of both worlds.

kwelch08 · Jan 20, 2016

I have 195/30s with a stage 2 Kc turbo and my egts at 1800rpms are right at 1000 pulling a 33ft fifth wheel camper fully loaded for 2 people to live out of. If that helps OP

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TyCorr · Jan 20, 2016

I dont understand why 6l are so hard to tune for nozzles?

Anybody here that tunes that can 'splain how you manipulate pw in the tuning and why just pulling pw until the truck is responsive and cool doesnt work?

Op, i truly am trying to help you too.

KCTurbos · Jan 20, 2016

TyCorr said:
I dont understand why 6l are so hard to tune for nozzles?

Anybody here that tunes that can 'splain how you manipulate pw in the tuning and why just pulling pw until the truck is responsive and cool doesnt work?

Op, i truly am trying to help you too.

It is sad for us 6.0 guys but the answer is very simple. There is no PW table in the 6.0 tuning.

There is a table to fool the ICP sensor and it only has 5 values (which leaves a lot to be desired). That is the only way to manipulate the PW on the 6.0.

TyCorr · Jan 20, 2016

Ok. But there is no way to find a decent value for someone towing? Or is that what people ARE doing?

I need to get a better understanding of the 6l injection system.

Our "shop" truck is an 04 6l cclb with rcd 190/75s and a powermax and it ***kin rips! Rcd tuning too. I think it runs fairly cool for what it is.

kwelch08 · Jan 20, 2016

I've been told by several people that they saw a night and day difference in temps stepping down from 100s to 75s

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TyCorr · Jan 20, 2016

kwelch08 said:
I've been told by several people that they saw a night and day difference in temps stepping down from 100s to 75s

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Im wondering if the 100 isnt a poor choice given the controls of the injection system.

kwelch08 · Jan 20, 2016

For someone that wants to tow Max weight maybe...

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jeremiahmercier · Jan 21, 2016

strokin6L said:
The reason for high egts is the 100% nozzles on the injectors...a little over kill. Guys complain about it all the time. Really shouldn't go any bigger than 75% nozzles on a 190cc injector.

Man this is soo different from the 7.3 world...

why not just shorten pulse width on a good tow tune? Larger nozzles with good TOW tunes, again TOW tune (not all out fuel tunes) and egts were waay easier to control with larger nozzles. Is there some reason I'm missing that this concept can't be applied to a 6.0? It was one of the most effective things we were doing on the 7.3s to manage egts while towing, once I went to larger nozzles, and had tunes adjusted my egts were so much lower. If there is something I'm missing please explain, because my goal was to apply this to my 06 when making an injector choice.

06-6.0l, studded, reworked heads, egr ******, blue spring mod, 6.4 banjos, dummy plugs, stand pipe, upgraded stc fitting, New oil cooler, New ipr, New icp, atlas 40 FICM, stage 1 powermax, and Looney wild, 325/65R18

jeremiahmercier · Jan 21, 2016

TyCorr said:
I dont understand why 6l are so hard to tune for nozzles?

Anybody here that tunes that can 'splain how you manipulate pw in the tuning and why just pulling pw until the truck is responsive and cool doesnt work?

Op, i truly am trying to help you too.

KCTurbos said:
It is sad for us 6.0 guys but the answer is very simple. There is no PW table in the 6.0 tuning.

There is a table to fool the ICP sensor and it only has 5 values (which leaves a lot to be desired). That is the only way to manipulate the PW on the 6.0.

TyCorr said:
Ok. But there is no way to find a decent value for someone towing? Or is that what people ARE doing?

I need to get a better understanding of the 6l injection system.

Our "shop" truck is an 04 6l cclb with rcd 190/75s and a powermax and it ***kin rips! Rcd tuning too. I think it runs fairly cool for what it is.

Sorry, should've finished reading all of thread before commenting, tycor has already addressed my concern as well

06-6.0l, studded, reworked heads, egr ******, blue spring mod, 6.4 banjos, dummy plugs, stand pipe, upgraded stc fitting, New oil cooler, New ipr, New icp, atlas 40 FICM, stage 1 powermax, and Looney wild, 325/65R18