Why no EFI LIVE for our 6.4's?

slow poke · Nov 11, 2013

I've been wondering since EFI live now makes programs for the cummins, does anyone think they will start working with Ford's 6.4 or 6.7 down the road? The duramax and cummins guys really seem to like there EFI live.

Dzchey21 · Nov 11, 2013

no for a couple reasons

Ford does not use a bosch system like cummins and duramax, so there is no real reason for them to support it

also even years ago sct had the market pretty well and allowed for custom tuning on a high level of what efi live is comparable to.

Plus now with the introduction of MCC for H&S it really kinda eliminates the need for it to be honest. Yes there are some things you can do with efi live that cant be done with mcc but the playing field has been leveled now.

WoodBoy · Nov 11, 2013

It would be nice if anything for the price (if it stayed the same as Cummins and Duramax) compared to H&S + MCC + Custom tunes.

Jgon08 · Nov 11, 2013

WoodBoy said:
It would be nice if anything for the price (if it stayed the same as Cummins and Duramax) compared to H&S + MCC + Custom tunes.

This is the only reason I could really see why anyone would want it for a 6.4.

Lysons · Nov 11, 2013

Dzchey21 said:
no for a couple reasons

Ford does not use a bosch system like cummins and duramax, so there is no real reason for them to support it

also even years ago sct had the market pretty well and allowed for custom tuning on a high level of what efi live is comparable to.

Plus now with the introduction of MCC for H&S it really kinda eliminates the need for it to be honest. Yes there are some things you can do with efi live that cant be done with mcc but the playing field has been leveled now.

Correct me if I am wrong, but CP4 is Bosch.
So why wouldn't EFILive try and release something on the 6.7 PSD when it is using the same injection pump as the current Duramax?

powerstroked08 · Nov 11, 2013

Lysons said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but CP4 is Bosch.
So why wouldn't EFILive try and release something on the 6.7 PSD when it is using the same injection pump as the current Duramax?

They hate Ford? Thats what I think anyhow:biggun:

NathannialD · Nov 11, 2013

You guys wouldn't know what to do with complete control over the motor and trans haha

That's why...

Lysons · Nov 11, 2013

delong_1 said:
You guys wouldn't know what to do with complete control over the motor and trans haha

That's why...

Yeah...well....

powerstroked08 · Nov 11, 2013

delong_1 said:
You guys wouldn't know what to do with complete control over the motor and trans haha

That's why...

Oh Nathannial, you know you secretly love Fords!

oke:

bigrpowr · Nov 11, 2013

powerstroked08 said:
Oh Nathannial, you know you secretly love Fords!oke:

just mine.

Powerstroke Racer · Nov 11, 2013

powerstroked08 said:
They hate Ford? Thats what I think anyhow:biggun:

This^^^^.

jdgleason · Nov 11, 2013

delong_1 said:
You guys wouldn't know what to do with complete control over the motor and trans haha

That's why...

You might be right... But that's why we have you LOL

Dzchey21 · Nov 11, 2013

Lysons said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but CP4 is Bosch.
So why wouldn't EFILive try and release something on the 6.7 PSD when it is using the same injection pump as the current Duramax?

I'm referring to the ecm. And with the recent epa stuff there is becoming less and less reasons to be able to tune them. Ilk be honest I don't know what's controlling the 6.7 but I doubt it's a bosch

Lysons · Nov 11, 2013

Dzchey21 said:
I'm referring to the ecm. And with the recent epa stuff there is becoming less and less reasons to be able to tune them. Ilk be honest I don't know what's controlling the 6.7 but I doubt it's a bosch

:doh:
I suck.

drunk on diesel · Nov 11, 2013

EFI Live only supports 06-09 Dodge because they use the same CAN communication protocol as the GM stuff...

I doubt they will ever support earlier or later Dodge as other companies already have custom tuning options for them

3brorce · Nov 12, 2013

Also, would be no benefit to just ecm tuning with efi live as I highly, highly doubt they would support tcm tuning as they do not on 6.7 cummins. MCC and EFI Live are not too far off from each other either as one very well known EFI Live tuner helped develope the MCC software. H&S is on top of custom tuning world for sure especially once they get data logging. They will support 03-05 SCI cummins before EFI Live will as well.