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thuglike · Jan 14, 2014

I would be more concerned about the trq curve rather than the hp one.

njjeep · Jan 14, 2014

Would dropping the nozzles down to 100's help to keep the rods in the block?

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Powerstroke Cowboy · Jan 14, 2014

Jason@NLTD said:
I would be more concerned about the trq curve rather than the hp one.

yup I agree. I am afraid my torque is more then it needs to be, below or @ 2000 RPMs.

Sorry to hear!! I hope i am not next.

DP-Tuner · Jan 14, 2014

PABowhunter said:
A dodge pulling a ford is never a good picture. Just give it time. I'm sure you'll return the favor.

It seems quite a few guys running a 468 with nozzles in the 250/200 to 350/200 range have blown motors recently.

I agree. Been there and done that after a turbo let go on the dyno. I am still reminded of that every time I talk to the Dodge owner.

Jody

Black 02 · Jan 14, 2014

No one that I know of has broken a billet rod motor on that setup.

The 350/200 setups that I know that have broke have been on stock forged rod motors. These are 600+ motors on fuel and 700+ on spray. (On stock rods)

I'm curious what Jody meant by seeing a trend. I'm building a new motor that I don't want to be part of a "trend".

DP-Tuner · Jan 14, 2014

Black 02 said:
No one that I know of has broken a billet rod motor on that setup.

The 350/200 setups that I know that have broke have been on stock forged rod motors. These are 600+ motors on fuel and 700+ on spray. (On stock rods)

I'm curious what Jody meant by seeing a trend. I'm building a new motor that I don't want to be part of a "trend".

I agree the billets are holding at that power.

I keep seeing a trend of Swamps tuning with blown motors. I am not sure if it is the tuning or something else. I know that many other factors come into play but most like to blame the tuning.

Jody

golfer · Jan 15, 2014

Jason@NLTD said:
I would be more concerned about the trq curve rather than the hp one.

Engine calibrations/chip tuning written for large(r) single turbochargers are going to make much more torque with a small(er) turbocharger...given that size injector.

..but at the end of the day, it's a gamble with forged rods.

As soon as a smaller, more responsive, turbocharger is thrown into the mix...the same chip programming is going to be brutal, when the boost comes on hard at 1800rpm, as opposed to 2300rpm.

Aside from our tuning, the success we've had in keeping stock/forged rod engines together at pretty respectable hp levels also comes from us (generally) selling packages that include large(r) turbochargers.

JAP · Jan 15, 2014

DP-Tuner said:
I agree the billets are holding at that power.

I keep seeing a trend of Swamps tuning with blown motors. I am not sure if it is the tuning or something else. I know that many other factors come into play but most like to blame the tuning.

Jody

Was that really just said? LOL

big_stroker · Jan 15, 2014

JAP said:
Was that really just said? LOL

Exactly what I was thinking LOL

bruce · Jan 15, 2014

Better to blow the rods out at 600 than at 300

ToMang07 · Jan 15, 2014

bruce said:
Better to blow the rods out at 600 than at 300

^Wishful thinking? LOL

thuglike · Jan 15, 2014

golfer said:
Engine calibrations/chip tuning written for large(r) single turbochargers are going to make much more torque with a small(er) turbocharger...given that size injector.

..but at the end of the day, it's a gamble with forged rods.

As soon as a smaller, more responsive, turbocharger is thrown into the mix...the same chip programming is going to be brutal, when the boost comes on hard at 1800rpm, as opposed to 2300rpm.

Aside from our tuning, the success we've had in keeping stock/forged rod engines together at pretty respectable hp levels also comes from us (generally) selling packages that include large(r) turbochargers.

I've seen, as I'm sure you have, alot of guys pushing the limits of chargers of all sizes. I look at some set ups and see either dyno sheets or track slips and start wondering how long is it til we see a "blew it up thread".

97stoker350 · Jan 15, 2014

I'm no expert but I believe too that billets will hold a set of 250s together. I've been wrong before though

Black 02 · Jan 15, 2014

97stoker350 said:
I'm no expert but I believe too that billets will hold a set of 250s together. I've been wrong before though

Billets will hold a set of 400's together.

The block just starts saying FU after awhile.

uke:

Magnum PD · Jan 15, 2014

Girdle, block fill, billet rods for piece of mind.

97stoker350 · Jan 17, 2014

I was being sarcastic lol

DEEZUZ · Jan 17, 2014

Fwiw. I have seen quite a few stock Ford remans toss rods. I don't like any kind of reman product

njjeep · Jan 17, 2014

That's good to know. I think I will be going with a low mileage 94-00 engine with seasoned gaskets on this next go around

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isootmypants · Jan 31, 2014

Drop that truck off to me bobby. I'll have it done for when you get back

Rideracelivemx7 · Jan 31, 2014

this is exactly why i have my set up and mild tunes. my boost doesnt come close to coming on until 2100 and is at full sing by 2400-2500. i have several tuners and i have discussed having lower torque and higher HP tunes written. Im sorry for your misfortune, i think you can keep the 200 nozzle and be very tame but with a close relationship with your tuner.