6L Headers... A few questions..

[Powerstroke Racer]

I wish I could do a back to back test on stock manifolds, modded stock manifolds, stainless manifolds, & headers on a 6L... it would be nice to see anyone that has used aftermarket manifolds or headers besides mpd, just so we would have a little more unbiased view...

ask yourself this, why does every performance turbocharged engine run a header/headers IF they don't work, why not run the stock manifolds.
The below tells you just what idiots Audi hires, they could have simply hired Steve and all the other IDE's out there on the interweb and saved a ton of money:doh:

This is the most ambitious and the most expensive project ever undertaken by Audi Sport; the Audi R10 TDI project cost Audi $15 million a year

Oh wait a minute, think maybe just maybe they did it because of this,

The Audi R10 TDI, usually abbreviated to R10, is a racing car from the German car manufacturer Audi. The car is a classic at Le Mans, winning every year since its introduction until it was replaced by the R15. It is designed and constructed for sports car racing in the Le Mans Prototype LMP1 class of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, and other similar endurance races. The car was unveiled 13 December 2005 at 12:00 CET,[2] and went on to win both its maiden race at the 2006 12 Hours of Sebring in March, and the June 2006 24 Hours of Le Mans.

Naw probably just a coincidence

 

[SIX_OHH]

It won because its not running 6 liter manifolds?

 

[Dzchey21]

Like I said untill a high quality header is released headers shouldn't even be considered in a build. I don't care what Audi is doing this is different I'm betting that car doesn't run 60 psi plus of back pressure

 

[strokin6L]

I wish I could do a back to back test on stock manifolds, modded stock manifolds, stainless manifolds, & headers on a 6L... it would be nice to see anyone that has used aftermarket manifolds or headers besides mpd, just so we would have a little more unbiased view...

Here is a truck with BWD's stainless manifolds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXw55YzORF0&feature=channel_video_title

Powerstroked162, Just read hicktowns comments on how these manifolds really suck and didn't help out the truck any...oh wait there aren't any of those comments. I do believe he posted they lowered the egt's and told me personally that they helpe spool the turbo alot better. But maybe he just had good luck right? Haha save it sucka!

 

[strokin6L]

Good luck, you're gonna need it

no luck needed. Keep testing your ****....seems like you need the luck bud!

 

[Powerstroked162]

Here is a truck with BWD's stainless manifolds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXw55YzORF0&feature=channel_video_title

Powerstroked162, Just read hicktowns comments on how these manifolds really suck and didn't help out the truck any...oh wait there aren't any of those comments. I do believe he posted they lowered the egt's and told me personally that they helpe spool the turbo alot better. But maybe he just had good luck right? Haha save it sucka!

Good luck. Bunting loves a sucker

 

[Powerstroked162]

ask yourself this, why does every performance turbocharged engine run a header/headers IF they don't work, why not run the stock manifolds.
The below tells you just what idiots Audi hires, they could have simply hired Steve and all the other IDE's out there on the interweb and saved a ton of money:doh:

Oh wait a minute, think maybe just maybe they did it because of this,


Naw probably just a coincidence

below is my answer to the above.

Like I said untill a high quality header is released headers shouldn't even be considered in a build. I don't care what Audi is doing this is different I'm betting that car doesn't run 60 psi plus of back pressure

 

[Powerstroke Racer]

Like I said untill a high quality header is released headers shouldn't even be considered in a build. I don't care what Audi is doing this is different I'm betting that car doesn't run 60 psi plus of back pressure

Justin, therein lies the problem with you and Steve, neither of you have the experience to be giving anybody advice on headers PERIOD.

Instead simply say "I was going to try a set, but I had a problem with a crack and did not get a chance to see the true benefits of running them.

and my posting in here has nothing to do with selling headers, just making sure the facts stay as fact not hearsay or Epinion.

 

[Dzchey21]

Justin, therein lies the problem with you and Steve, neither of you have the experience to be giving anybody advice on headers PERIOD.

Instead simply say "I was going to try a set, but I had a problem with a crack and did not get a chance to see the true benefits of running them.

and my posting in here has nothing to do with selling headers, just making sure the facts stay as fact not hearsay or Epinion.

As a matter of fact it does.


The whole point of headers is to enhance spool up correct?

Well if there is a big ***ing split in it, releiving drive pressure.... well ***... then to take the cab off... less than 50 miles after install... which the cab came off 1 other time before that to fix an exhaust leak... u tell me if the miniscule amount of spool gained was worth the 6 hours in labor just to lift the cab.

 

[Powerstroked162]

And to add to that, what's the gain worth? Not much considering guys like Zane, Arron, Sean all are out setting records without those parts while the rest are playing catch up. I believe in the theory, but I don't think it's purpose is warranted on these platforms. Save that money for turbo's or something else and use what you got. The numbers seen at the track that were provided to me are nothing to really jump for joy over. It's to much work and energy and time for the most minimal of gains.

 

[Dzchey21]

Back to the audi/Gasser... just because gassers do it doesn't mean it works on diesels... supercharging also comes to mind

 

[Powerstroke Racer]

As a matter of fact it does.


The whole point of headers is to enhance spool up correct?

Well if there is a big ***ing split in it, releiving drive pressure.... well ***... then to take the cab off... less than 50 miles after install... which the cab came off 1 other time before that to fix an exhaust leak... u tell me if the miniscule amount of spool gained was worth the 6 hours in labor just to lift the cab.

And to add to that, what's the gain worth? Not much considering guys like Zane, Arron, Sean all are out setting records without those parts while the rest are playing catch up. I believe in the theory, but I don't think it's purpose is warranted on these platforms. Save that money for turbo's or something else and use what you got. The numbers seen at the track that were provided to me are nothing to really jump for joy over. It's to much work and energy and time for the most minimal of gains.

Again neither of you have the experience to say one way or the other.

Steve
They all run compounds and nitrous to do there times, not what the average guy on here is willing to do or afford.

Back to the audi/Gasser... just because gassers do it doesn't mean it works on diesels... supercharging also comes to mind

it's a v10 twin turbodieseloke:

 

[Dzchey21]

So your saying for 500 HP run headers but if you want to make 800 and run 10s on fuel the. Take them off and run compounds... which stock are on 6.4s


How don't wt have experience cuz they split and we took them off? That's experience... bad experience

 

[Dzchey21]

Again neither of you have the experience to say one way or the other.

Steve
They all run compounds and nitrous to do there times, not what the average guy on here is willing to do or afford.


it's a v10 twin turbodieseloke:

Tell me its running anyyhing over 20 psi of back pressure and I might be impressed

 

[Powerstroke Racer]

So your saying for 500 HP run headers but if you want to make 800 and run 10s on fuel the. Take them off and run compounds... which stock are on 6.4s


How don't wt have experience cuz they split and we took them off? That's experience... bad experience

I had a flat tire the other day, so I don't recommend anyone running tires anymore.

 

[Powerstroked162]

Again neither of you have the experience to say one way or the other.

Steve
They all run compounds and nitrous to do there times, not what the average guy on here is willing to do or afford.


it's a v10 twin turbodieseloke:

But the average guy can spend $1200 on a set of headers that have defects? Wow. Nice sales pitch, "if you want to make power and compete, don't run headers"

We both have personal experience, as well as experience with other peoples same misfortune with these things. You keep trying to discredit that like it's gonna mean something. Proof is in who uses what to make big power, all be it on compounds, nitrous, a single, whatever. An the pictures tell the tale David.

 

[Dzchey21]

20 min to fix a tire compared to 10 hours to fix a header is a terrible compareson... btw I have had no flat tires on this truck in 40000 miles less that. I cant say thay for my headers

 

[Powerstroke Racer]

Tell me its running anyyhing over 20 psi of back pressure and I might be impressed

Let me ask you something since you think you know everything about turbocharging diesels(from your experience of course), what is the proper way to setup a turbocharger/wastegate system in a performance application and explain why you would need higher than 20 psi of back pressure.

 

[Dzchey21]

Ask tadd how much boost his drag truck made before blowing a header? We can measure atmospheres psi bar kpi and then we will factor in time... easier to.measure in seconds... less decimal points to figure in

 

[Dzchey21]

Tell me how many big HP diesel's aren't making over 50 psi of boost... more that. 500 HP to David