Industrial compounds?

David S. · Jun 10, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
I think the biggest tune for the 6.4 then was the 210 KEM tune.

exactly. In time they'll get everything figured out. Now KEM has a 345 tune I mean give it some time. I'm happy at least we are now seeing turbo's on the 6.7

07strokerftw · Jun 10, 2011

Once they run the pump out of it's range (which is around 500 I suppose) the basic tune/exhaust/intake deal is done i guess? Then you'll be looking at an upgraded fuel pump to push the tuning further

SEABEE08FX4 · Jun 10, 2011

David S. said:
exactly. In time they'll get everything figured out. Now KEM has a 345 tune I mean give it some time. I'm happy at least we are now seeing turbo's on the 6.7

I know, I think everyone (me as well) was hoping there was more fuel in the truck not dogging the kit. It looks like a twin pump kit is in order.

David S. · Jun 10, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
I know, I think everyone (me as well) was hoping there was more fuel in the truck not dogging the kit. It looks like a twin pump kit is in order.

Same here. I was expecting alot more, but this is just the tip of the iceberg.

6.0dirtworker · Jun 10, 2011

If a cp4.2 doesn't nearly have the fuel it needs, with a new pump and turbo configuration they should hit 600s easy with tuning and lp fuel if 6.4s are handling that now. Unless this engine flow is really turning it all bass ackwards.

SEABEE08FX4 · Jun 10, 2011

Monstar said:
If a cp4.2 doesn't nearly have the fuel it needs, with a new pump and turbo configuration they should hit 600s easy with tuning and lp fuel if 6.4s are handling that now. Unless this engine flow is really turning it all bass ackwards.

I think its fuel realated, also the stock vgt could be limiting some air flow too. I bet a second pump gets it close to 600 if there is no issue with the stock charger.

6.0dirtworker · Jun 10, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
I think its fuel realated, also the stock vgt could be limiting some air flow too. I bet a second pump gets it close to 600 if there is no issue with the stock charger.

I bet. I just feel bad with the cluster*** that's under there right now. It gives me a migraine thinking of extra fuel lines or pipes to take on and off when experimenting.

17BLKplat · Jun 11, 2011

I happen to have an S480 sitting in my garage right now. Just saying...

If industrial sees this- I'm not going to turn down a brown box full of pipin if you'd like another review.

Dzchey21 · Jun 11, 2011

i find it crazy that II just skipped the 6.4 as far as turbos go, but whatever im glad to already see them comming out with turbos for the 6.7, hopefully they can make a 6.7 pump that holds up...

Powerstroked162 · Jun 11, 2011

PTSUPERD said:
Got rail pressure?

Ding ding ding

17BLKplat · Jun 11, 2011

Dzchey21 said:
i find it crazy that II just skipped the 6.4 as far as turbos go, but whatever im glad to already see them comming out with turbos for the 6.7, hopefully they can make a 6.7 pump that holds up...

Maybe they didn't want to compete with companies who are already knocking it out the park. There are definitely some wicked upgrades available for the 6.4 mill.

I feel like Industrial has this kit now and will start honing in on areas of weakness, i.e. fuel pump, injectors, boosting rail pressure, etc. I hope so atleast, but it only seems right to address these areas.

Dzchey21 · Jun 11, 2011

06TWO50Diesel said:
Maybe they didn't want to compete with companies who are already knocking it out the park. There are definitely some wicked upgrades available for the 6.4 mill.

I feel like Industrial has this kit now and will start honing in on areas of weakness, i.e. fuel pump, injectors, boosting rail pressure, etc. I hope so atleast, but it only seems right to address these areas.

i agree, elite was so far ahead on the 6.4 stuff with such a complicated air system that your probably right

Wondering what kinda power/mods were gunna see from the 6.7 soon

17BLKplat · Jun 11, 2011

Dzchey21 said:
i agree, elite was so far ahead on the 6.4 stuff with such a complicated air system that your probably right

Wondering what kinda power/mods were gunna see from the 6.7 soon

Elite definitely has the 6.4 on lock!
Makes me hope that they're putting their minds to the stone with the 6.7 too, I'm sure there is plenty in the works.
Exciting stuff!

Dzchey21 · Jun 11, 2011

06TWO50Diesel said:
Elite definitely has the 6.4 on lock!
Makes me hope that they're putting their minds to the stone with the 6.7 too, I'm sure there is plenty in the works.
Exciting stuff!

They are, not sure exactly what and when but i do know tadd is working on stuff

17BLKplat · Jun 11, 2011

Tadd isn't one to let grass grow which I really like!
They'll get it done right, I'm sure.

Dzchey21 · Jun 11, 2011

so i guess i missed the details on this turbo set up

It uses a stock turbo from what i gather? And an s480?

Probably a great tow set up as long as the exhaust side isnt too small on the stock turbo, are they gatting between stages, hard to see in the vid

17BLKplat · Jun 11, 2011

They are saying it's an S480 with the stock unit still in place. Only other items mentioned are H&S Mini Maxx and DPF delete. Oddly they didn't mention EGR delete, even though it looks to be gone from some of the pics they posted on FB.
No gate mentioned either, wonder why? I wonder how much the factory gate can handle. With the tuners I've heard of 30 pounds of boost I think, stacking another big turbo on that and I think the stocker might be maxed out.

Only thing I noticed was what looked to be one of those relief valves, like what they use on the cummins set ups. Maybe someone else has more info.

Dzchey21 · Jun 11, 2011

i wonder what drive pressure is like with out a gate, probably high, but im sure wastegate on a 6.7 is going to be a tough task

Powerstroke586 · Jun 11, 2011

Dzchey21 said:
i find it crazy that II just skipped the 6.4 as far as turbos go, but whatever im glad to already see them comming out with turbos for the 6.7, hopefully they can make a 6.7 pump that holds up...

i thought Nos_GTSR (jon) had a set of II turbos on his 6.4 that he was testing for them?

Goose · Jun 11, 2011

SEABEE08FX4 said:
Im wondering if there is still some sort of limp mode going on. I mean its got .3L of displacment on the 6.4 and now and added turbo and its fully deleted and tuned yet only did 522 at the wheels. Most stock 6.4's will do that with a mild tune, not knocking it I'm sure there are teething issues to be worked out but I would have expected more out of it with the added air. Maybe it doesnt fuel as hard as the 6.4 does.

I hope it works out though.

True, but tuning for the 6.4 has come a long way since the it was released. Give it time.