Motor Rebuild Help

Fl Stroker · Sep 14, 2011

JR

I too priced my build out and was looking to do what you are doing. The question is are you able to do it twice? If a builder who has built many of them and have the in's and outs on them messed up then they will build you another. To be at the proper tolerance and be able to beat the sh!t out of it like we do with built motors isn't cheep.

Now let's say you save 3k by building it yourself what if you screwed up? It will cost you more in the long run especially with out experience not to say it's hard to do.

I spent an entire day at SWAMPS and saw first hand what Johnny their engine build does. I can tell you that every part is measured in disassembely to the point that I was amazed. Spending that king on money I say leave it to the pros and enjoy the finished product.

I would recommend SWAMPS to anyone looking for any kind of build. Give Dave a call and talk he will set you strait.

thuglike · Sep 15, 2011

Big Bore said:
I thought he just blew a motor and built another recently?

Nope. Still on the same one I picked up at DI way back when

thuglike · Sep 15, 2011

No Girdle or filled block on mine.

moose99psd · Sep 15, 2011

Fl Stroker said:
JR

I too priced my build out and was looking to do what you are doing. The question is are you able to do it twice? If a builder who has built many of them and have the in's and outs on them messed up then they will build you another. To be at the proper tolerance and be able to beat the sh!t out of it like we do with built motors isn't cheep.

Now let's say you save 3k by building it yourself what if you screwed up? It will cost you more in the long run especially with out experience not to say it's hard to do.

I spent an entire day at SWAMPS and saw first hand what Johnny their engine build does. I can tell you that every part is measured in disassembely to the point that I was amazed. Spending that king on money I say leave it to the pros and enjoy the finished product.

I would recommend SWAMPS to anyone looking for any kind of build. Give Dave a call and talk he will set you strait.

building a motor isnt rocket science, measuring is key.

thuglike · Sep 15, 2011

Jonathan from Beans has a complete set of Carillo rods for sale. Pretty good deal too.

juniort444e · Sep 15, 2011

Pm coming your way jason.

juniort444e · Sep 21, 2011

Ok, so after talking with some people and trying to figure out whats best, which is still uncertain right not, i have come to this so far....

Stage 2 cam From gear head
Valve Springs--better then current 910's
Mahles with bowl work and coatings
Carrilo or crowers, which ever gives me better price
Port & Polish heads
Staying with Arp head studs
Arp main studs
Staying with smith bro pushrods
Ceramic coated manifolds
Matt @ gearhead tuning
Might be making better plenums
Wastegate.. still not sure what size

If im missing something let me know. I am not 100% on the cam. Some say its not worth it some say it is. I am staying with the 250/200hybrids and 4202 with compounds in the plans for next winter. Also I am not filling or partial filling the block. Heard mixed stories on that, and since its a DD i am leaving that alone. Lastly i heard a bed plate is better then a girdle. Anyone with info on that and who makes a bed plate. Thank you

Greg

Fl Stroker · Sep 21, 2011

Swamps makes the bed plate. Looks like you got yourself a good list.

SkySki Jason · Sep 21, 2011

Here's some coatings you can DIY while waiting for final assembly. I have friends who have used these products in various applications and swear by them. I woulda done it, but I was out of time on my F350 build and ended up with a longblock somebody else put together. Get a cheep oven on CL to use for the baking if you have a spouse...

Turbo X for your manifolds, up-pipes and turbo exhaust housing:
http://www.techlinecoatings.com/hi-performance/bs-exhaust-system-coatings.html

Ceramalube for piston skirts and CBX for piston tops:
http://www.techlinecoatings.com/hi-performance/bs-internal-engine-coatings.html

juniort444e · Sep 21, 2011

Thanks for the info guys.

I forgot headgaskets. What should i do about those, or more importantly which ones are the best for the money.

thuglike · Sep 21, 2011

Stockers work for me....If you go twins............ring it.

juniort444e · Sep 21, 2011

I was thinking about firerings, but a few people told me not to. So im not 100%sure if i really want to right now. How much boost, or cfm does your turbo flow.

jwlandry · Sep 21, 2011

Id go with stock gaskets and add some main studs in your build list, id also at least do a girdle

juniort444e · Sep 21, 2011

I do have arp main studs in the list. And i heard a bed plate is better then a girdle. Im still trying to figure out the differences but thats what i was told. And that i believe is on the list to.

Anyone want to throw some opinions on fire rings. Worth it, not worth it, different options.

jwlandry · Sep 22, 2011

If you do ring it go with someone thats has been doing them a while and have had good luck with them. I'd personally go with swamps or WOP.

vanderchevy18 · Sep 22, 2011

I'd go bedplate or half fill before I did a halo style girdle.

strokin'_tatsch · Sep 22, 2011

With fire rings, keep in mind that it is a MUST to do a hot retorque with them. It would be a good idea to do fire rings if your going to run compounds.

juniort444e · Sep 22, 2011

A hot retorque is when you re torque them after so many miles while motor is somewhat warm right. Or am i all wrong.

thuglike · Sep 22, 2011

strokin'_tatsch said:
With fire rings, keep in mind that it is a MUST to do a hot retorque with them. It would be a good idea to do fire rings if your going to run compounds.

Good point.