2wd vs 4wd for the track

[ChattyCathy]

That's half his goal I think. Op is wanting to test turbos. Gate and spray can make most any turbo shine.

I, however, think it's a great idea.

That is so far away from the truth when it comes to turbos.

 

[BOSS450]

That is so far away from the truth when it comes to turbos.

Would the correct term be that nitrous can distort results to a point that proving the turbo has anything more then a good center section would be challenging to prove? Teach me something

 

[KCTurbos]

If you use the 6.4 piston will the bowl design still work for the 6.0?

Work? I dunno. But I would imagine it would not be optimal. They are different. That is another reason why we dumped the 6.4 piston idea

 

[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

So this is a 6.0 or 6.4? 1000hp in a 6.0 is kind of a waste imo.


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[Morgan@Midwest Diesel & Auto]

Not being a dick but being realistic


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[KCTurbos]

No offense taken. We all know you are a dick :lookaround:

LOL.... JK

I got a sweet spot for the 6.0 :ford:


Kinda cool that you can find a running and driving 6.0 rclb diesel for $2500-$3500. Leaves more money for poor people like me to play with. I have never built a 6.4 or 6.7 and was thinking about getting one... but around here they start around 12-15k. 10k extra can go a long way in the power department.

For example: With a 25K budget you could either by a 6.0 and put 20k in it or a 6.4 and put 10k in it. For what we want to do it makes more sense to put the 20k into a 6.0.

Or...

On a 15k budget you can drive a stockish 6.4 or a 6.0 with 10k in aftermarket mods.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[Jeremy @ No Limit]

Well we are still on the fence about what we want... but now we better understand the pros and cons. Thanks


We bought this truck earlier this year with plans to make it the test truck. Up until now we have done most of our testing on the dyno. Same dyno, same truck, same conditions etc... It has been very helpful and beneficial to us in the R&D department. But we would like to also start testing/playing at the track. They just re-opened the local track which helps. At this point in time we dont plan on competing... but once we get the bug we don't want to regret our decisions on which platform to start with. But I would venture to say for our goals right now a 4wd would be best... but we might regret not starting with a 2wd later down the road.

You can come visit next spring and check out our 2wd we are building!:evil

 

[swinky]

Charlie I think your best bet is to do something like what mpd tried to do with project proving grounds. Start with maybe a high 12 second combo and work your way down.

 

[6 L chevy eater]

No offense taken. We all know you are a dick :lookaround:

LOL.... JK


LMFAO! !!

 

[ChattyCathy]

Would the correct term be that nitrous can distort results to a point that proving the turbo has anything more then a good center section would be challenging to prove? Teach me something

Depends on if you want to talk about data and maps etc or drivability...From a drivability standpoint this video shows you how big of an advantage the H&S truck has on the line. Keep in mind this setup flows over 4000 CFM. If you watch the in cab view you can hear and see Payton really doesn't get aggressive on building boost until he is double staged. The setup for the size and cfm is effortless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beBIbtnVRoQ

 

[BOSS450]

I completely agree with you. That's one reason I don't post much. Many people make a simple statement that is taken out of context. Context of the OP is building this truck to test the turbos he builds by drag racing. As the same in the past, most want a time slip and weight scale receipt to plug into a calculator for horsepower. Obviously you already know this.

My point in context is I was responding to a Swinky's post. How would you sway a buyer to purchase your turbo when your testing is done by "spraying the nuts off of it"


Originally Posted by swinky
"I dont think you can bore a 6.0 that far. .040 over is about max.

skip the bore, put a 4r in it, s475 and spray the nuts off of it."

That's exactly what I'm doing with mine. However my turbo is nothing special over any other turbo. It drives down the road like crap but on a time slip it looks fast. Does my statement make more sense or am I still far from the truth.

 

[ChattyCathy]

I completely agree with you. That's one reason I don't post much. Many people make a simple statement that is taken out of context. Context of the OP is building this truck to test the turbos he builds by drag racing. As the same in the past, most want a time slip and weight scale receipt to plug into a calculator for horsepower. Obviously you already know this.

My point in context is I was responding to a Swinky's post. How would you sway a buyer to purchase your turbo when your testing is done by "spraying the nuts off of it"


Originally Posted by swinky
"I dont think you can bore a 6.0 that far. .040 over is about max.

skip the bore, put a 4r in it, s475 and spray the nuts off of it."

That's exactly what I'm doing with mine. However my turbo is nothing special over any other turbo. It drives down the road like crap but on a time slip it looks fast. Does my statement make more sense or am I still far from the truth.

Ah ok I didn't read the trail of posts to well up to what you said....

 

[KCTurbos]

Charlie I think your best bet is to do something like what mpd tried to do with project proving grounds. Start with maybe a high 12 second combo and work your way down.

Thanks, I agree with you. Even if I wanted to I doubt we could just "throw" a good combo together and be in the 10s. I am sure it will be a long, slow process. I am hoping to get a good solid motor to be able to test a couple of combos on it. Not sure I will be able to do anything as extensive as what MPD was planning on... but we will see.


On a side note: I was really disappointing that MPD had all those big plans to test a bunch of products and then just ended up jumping to the end.

 

[swinky]

Thanks, I agree with you. Even if I wanted to I doubt we could just "throw" a good combo together and be in the 10s. I am sure it will be a long, slow process. I am hoping to get a good solid motor to be able to test a couple of combos on it. Not sure I will be able to do anything as extensive as what MPD was planning on... but we will see.


On a side note: I was really disappointing that MPD had all those big plans to test a bunch of products and then just ended up jumping to the end.

I agree but if you saw that thing in person you'd understand why they didn't want to put the man hours in it.