600hp/1000tq build sugg

weekendwarriorfsw32 · Dec 14, 2015

Just did 663 on the rollers with 68 barder vgt and 190/75's from full force. Stock trans to boot.

046.ohBills · Dec 14, 2015

weekendwarriorfsw32 said:
Just did 663 on the rollers with 68 barder vgt and 190/75's from full force. Stock trans to boot.

Thank you for that input man lets me know what builds are pushing. also what was your torque at? Was your exhaust clean or did it eventually clean up?

Merc82 · Dec 14, 2015

046.ohBills said:
Sorry didnt remember but why the regulated return for the 190/30 injectors?

To make sure everyone gets fed at the soupkitchen... lol. Trust me, my psi drops at wot with my setup. I would look into the supply side as well with a sump/upgraded pump.

weekendwarriorfsw32 · Dec 14, 2015

I didn't get tq off this dyno. From when I punched it there was smoke but it cleared up.
https://youtu.be/3p1OgmLNtko

046.ohBills said:
Thank you for that input man lets me know what builds are pushing. also what was your torque at? Was your exhaust clean or did it eventually clean up?

valvetick · Dec 14, 2015

Just buy a 6.4 ****** it and you have your 600/1000.....

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Powerstroke Man 6.4 · Dec 14, 2015

weekendwarriorfsw32 said:
I didn't get tq off this dyno. From when I punched it there was smoke but it cleared up.
https://youtu.be/3p1OgmLNtko

Very nice, runs clean.

Harleyx · Dec 14, 2015

valvetick said:
Just buy a 6.4 ****** it and you have your 600/1000.....

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Yeah aND then when your turbos go out, yup ure out a couple grand. Oh, then your hpfp goes out, let's pull the cab again and spend another couple grand. And then you still don't have studs.. versus a 6.0 you can access all of that much easier witg the cab on. For a 3rd of the cost. To each his own

valvetick · Dec 14, 2015

Harleyx said:
Yeah aND then when your turbos go out, yup ure out a couple grand. Oh, then your hpfp goes out, let's pull the cab again and spend another couple grand. And then you still don't have studs.. versus a 6.0 you can access all of that much easier witg the cab on. For a 3rd of the cost. To each his own

I have a 6.0 the 6.4 has its down falls but not near as many as our trucks..all of those listed above 6.0's are plagued with and more. And nothing can touch it stock with just a tune.

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sootie · Dec 15, 2015

valvetick said:
I have a 6.0 the 6.4 has its down falls but not near as many as our trucks..all of those listed above 6.0's are plagued with and more. And nothing can touch it stock with just a tune.

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You're full of chit

powerstrokedkid87 · Dec 15, 2015

046.ohBills said:
Yea i plan on doing my trans first thing when i get back and are the pushrods and valvesprings not good at the 550 to 650 range?

046.ohBills said:
Sorry didnt remember but why the regulated return for the 190/30 injectors?

its not that the stock ones are bad, its just cheap insurance for a larger setup. I recommend upgrading in anything over a stock size charger, or powermax. Last thing you want is to have to go back in and pull ahead off. For the money, it would be a wise purchase.

the regulated return for exactly what was mentioned. To keep all the injectors fed adequately and evenly. a fuel pump is also a good idea. You could get away with a stock pump, but an upgrade again will keep injectors from loosing fuel pressure.

When you get into trying to make a more power, you have to add the supporting mods. It may seem like your spending pointless money on parts that may not per say add power, but you need the additional parts to help optimize the parts that do add HP. You can risk not doing the necessary supporting mods to try and save a little money, but cheaping out will most always cost double in the long run.

046.ohBills · Dec 16, 2015

powerstrokedkid87 said:
its not that the stock ones are bad, its just cheap insurance for a larger setup. I recommend upgrading in anything over a stock size charger, or powermax. Last thing you want is to have to go back in and pull ahead off. For the money, it would be a wise purchase.

the regulated return for exactly what was mentioned. To keep all the injectors fed adequately and evenly. a fuel pump is also a good idea. You could get away with a stock pump, but an upgrade again will keep injectors from loosing fuel pressure.

When you get into trying to make a more power, you have to add the supporting mods. It may seem like your spending pointless money on parts that may not per say add power, but you need the additional parts to help optimize the parts that do add HP. You can risk not doing the necessary supporting mods to try and save a little money, but cheaping out will most always cost double in the long run.

I understand completely, I planned on doing the supporting mods for it, just not sure exactly what supporting mods to get that would be pointless if you know what I mean. I was thinking about doing a larger fuel pump but whose regulated return kit would you suggest?

046.ohBills · Jan 16, 2016

For this build to 1000 tq a lot of guys have been saying 190cc injectors (30 and 70%) but what would a 175cc75% nozzle be able to do? would that help with the 1000tq number and be able to support a kc stage 2.5 turbo to the 1000 tq number?

Halestorm55 · Jan 16, 2016

Probably but it would be hotter towing.

046.ohBills · Jan 16, 2016

Halestorm55 said:
Probably but it would be hotter towing.

when you say "hotter" are you saying like a couple hundred degrees or like 50-100 degrees? I know you cant say like exact but which end of the scale would it be closer to?

Halestorm55 · Jan 16, 2016

Couple hundred. Go check out kcturbos redemption build thread. Those temps are with 190/30's. 75's would be a bit smokey and work better on a 205-285 to stay close to factory cc/flow ratio.

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046.ohBills · Jan 16, 2016

Halestorm55 said:
Couple hundred. Go check out kcturbos redemption build thread. Those temps are with 190/30's. 75's would be a bit smokey and work better on a 205-285 to stay close to factory cc/flow ratio.

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ok right on, I figured the 175/75 would be easier on the stock pump then 190/75,190/30. but if it wouldn't then I guess it wouldn't matter. Engines don't like heat lol trying to stay away from that when I have to tow.

Six_Sloww · Jan 16, 2016

You can do 175's but bigger than a 30% nozzle isn't necessary on a 175

Dieselmore · Jan 16, 2016

KC stage 2 and 190/30's is a great setup for the street

046.ohBills · Jan 16, 2016

Six_Sloww said:
You can do 175's but bigger than a 30% nozzle isn't necessary on a 175

I'm assuming that is because the 30% flows the 175 to a point where any bigger is pointless?

Dieselmore said:
KC stage 2 and 190/30's is a great setup for the street

I heard kcturbos say that and he suggested the stage 2.5 for quicker spoolup which in turn is a slightly higher tq number if I recall correctly. still streetable, dd, and tow capabilities. would you agree?