7.3 Rough Idle, Hard Warm Start, and Blue Haze from Exhaust

[m j]

no other single can run 300/200s.
are you monitoring HPOP or blindly blaming a pump?
re-read first post. 2400psi you have an issue

 

[dsberman94]

Honey badger sr?

 

[m j]

Honey badger sr?

is there such a thing? I have not seen a release thread

 

[dsberman94]

is there such a thing? I have not seen a release thread

Fairly certain it was released January of this year. Could be wrong. I remember seeing a thread asking if it was still on track for release. Iirc the answer was yes. Would have to pm the dynoproven guys for a definite answer. But I could be wrong.

 

[m j]

so they just forgot to mention it on their facebook page or in any of the forums?

OP needs to diagnose his issue. he doesnt give us IPR DC%
I have been chasing my issues to wiring. valve cover gaskets were crosstalking between 5&7 (passenger side rear cylinders, I dont know the powerstroke numbering system so using the crankshaft order), and a bad connector at the ECM
mine makes plenty of pressure though.

 

[Obsledpuller]

Fairly certain it was released January of this year. Could be wrong. I remember seeing a thread asking if it was still on track for release. Iirc the answer was yes. Would have to pm the dynoproven guys for a definite answer. But I could be wrong.

I ordered one from them(HB SR) and was told two weeks a month ago. Not bashing on them just ish I knew when it's actually coming?

 

[m j]

a pump is a massive undertaking. I am sure it will be very cool when they get it out.

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

Ide @ 650 RPM = 600 PSI and 11% Duty Cycle

SRP 1.1 AE test results WOT:
TIME: ---------- ICP: ------- TIME: ----- DUTY: ---- TIME: ----- RPM:
04:13:43.609 1078.12 04:13:43.687 17.19 04:13:43.765 1563.3
04:13:43.953 1052.1 04:13:44.031 15.23 04:13:44.109 1539.5
04:13:44.296 931.62 04:13:44.375 16.01 04:13:44.453 1575.5
04:13:44.812 2444.73 04:13:44.890 36.72 04:13:44.968 2055.5
04:13:45.156 2922.13 04:13:45.234 37.5 04:13:45.312 2191.8
04:13:45.500 2900.64 04:13:45.578 37.5 04:13:45.656 2372.8
04:13:45.843 2953.81 04:13:45.921 37.5 04:13:46.000 2617.8
04:13:46.187 2991.71 04:13:46.265 36.72 04:13:46.343 2831
04:13:46.531 2906.29 04:13:46.609 35.15 04:13:46.687 3006.5
04:13:46.875 2733.77 04:13:46.953 33.2 04:13:47.031 3126.8
04:13:47.218 2651.19 04:13:47.296 32.42 04:13:47.375 3140.8
04:13:47.562 2578.22 04:13:47.640 32.42 04:13:47.718 3079
04:13:47.906 2647.79 04:13:47.984 34.76 04:13:48.062 2949.8
04:13:48.250 2721.89 04:13:48.328 34.37 04:13:48.406 2603.3
04:13:48.593 2840.68 04:13:48.671 37.5 04:13:48.750 2117.5
04:13:48.937 2820.88 04:13:49.015 37.5 04:13:49.093 2247.8
04:13:49.281 2897.81 04:13:49.359 37.5 04:13:49.437 2388.8
04:13:49.625 2923.26 04:13:49.703 37.89 04:13:49.781 2470.8
04:13:50.140 1859.28 04:13:50.218 41.4 04:13:50.296 2652.3

 

[TyCorr]

If they are our injectors we will gladly take a look for you if you want to send them in. Do me a favor though, get it hot and then see if it has a hard start, if it does pour water on the HPOP and try to restart it right away. You can always give me a call too! 615-962-8291.

I got mine hot just now. Returned home and shut the engine off. Cranked it for.ten seconds and it cranked fast like there was no load on the engine(as in the hpo wasnt building). Got out, doused the pump liberally with cold water, and returned to the cab. Turned the key and it started so fast I couldnt count the time it took to.crank.

To dispel any ideas that my initial.cranking built hpo, it did not. The icp.was @325psi when I poured cold wawa over the srp1.1.

Anybody know how to.get ahold of Gary?

 

[mattman347]

Sometimes I hate being right! Sorry your having troubles with that pump, hope you get it figured out.

 

[TyCorr]

Sometimes I hate being right! Sorry your having troubles with that pump, hope you get it figured out.

Would you say thats a fairly good "field" test to see if the pump has issues or should I still go through with the deadhead testing? We have a plug and a dummy port that I can plug my icp sensor into and crank the truck. It'll either show the pump refusing to build or show if one banks injectors are splooging off hpo.

I just cant believe after Ive replaced all my sensors and looked at the injectors and even replaced the orings. Watched the injectors with the vc off to see if they're puking oil. Nada.

 

[mattman347]

I would say with the water you proved its a pump issue, but it's always a good idea to double check things.

 

[TyCorr]

***k! Excuse my French. Man this stupid thing has been nothing but trouble for me. It worked awesome but not awesome enough to.try it again,lol.

Im just blown away that it died in under 5k miles.

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

***k! Excuse my French. Man this stupid thing has been nothing but trouble for me. It worked awesome but not awesome enough to.try it again,lol.

Im just blown away that it died in under 5k miles.

I know how you feel.
Did you have any troubles with your pump prior to your start issue?

Rough idle? High EGTs?

My ICP almost reached 3000PSI at WOT which leads me to believe my pump is running okay. Not to eliminate the pump causing all my problems though..

 

[TyCorr]

Yes! I was chasing a high egt problem. I replaced my wheel bearings, my brakes, and found a questionable boot that prompted me to change them. No changes. I have a tow tune where the egts stay cool but its a 40hp tune. Not much fuel.

Idle was buttery smooth for a while whch was partly acclaim for the irate fuel system I have.

Then it started getting ragged. Back when it was below zero everyday it would lope so bad that it was undriveable. I changed ipr, icp sensors, and checked wiring to no avail. Its been a long effin road. Im kinda ticked that all the 250+k mile parts are fine and happy its the hightech, billet gutted, hpop on steroids that cant pull it together,lol.

Edit:yea, my pump will build up to.3600 psi of hpo but it may also kill the truck and not restart until the pump cools off.

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

An update. I ran the truck hard today and then let the truck sit for 2 hours. I then pulled the plug out of the top of the HPOP reservoir and checked the oil level. The level of oil was still full. Does this eliminate a High Pressure Oil leak?

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

Another update.

Verified that there is no air in the fuel lines.
Verified that the oil is not being aerated.
Did another cylinder contribution test, that passed.
Pulled Valve Covers, no injectors look to be puking oil.
I also unplugged each injector and listened to the idle. Injectors 3 & 4 didn't sound much different regardless of if they were plugged in. Not sure if this is common? or if I have an injector issue?

Doing a compression test this week.

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

Another update.

I ran the truck without a belt to verify that the rough idle was not coming from an accessory or fan.
I also ran a compression test. I didn't do a warm compression test, but each cylinder scored around 350psi.
Pulled injectors & HPOP and I'm sending them out Monday.

 

[Pwnm30rdi3]

For anyone still following.

Full Force bench flowed the injectors (Thanks again guys!!). Said they found some debris in 2 of the injectors. That would explain the slight smoke at idle and my miss/ rough idle.
The SRP 1.1 had a spring break internally, which must have ran through the injectors.
Since the SRP 1.1 had a broken spring, that could have been causing my low ICP numbers.

Anyways. Injectors are on the way back and I am installing twin termies this week.

 

[lincolnlocker]

For anyone still following.

Full Force bench flowed the injectors (Thanks again guys!!). Said they found some debris in 2 of the injectors. That would explain the slight smoke at idle and my miss/ rough idle.
The SRP 1.1 had a spring break internally, which must have ran through the injectors.
Since the SRP 1.1 had a broken spring, that could have been causing my low ICP numbers.

Anyways. Injectors are on the way back and I am installing twin termies this week.

Nice!!

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