Aftermarket stock looking turbos??

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larger injectors and backing the pw down on the tuning will actually tow better and lower egts than a stock nozzle with the pw carried out longer to achieve the same hp.

Aarons set up at 6000 feet of elevation smoked less than mike hallers bone stock truck with a tuner, that to me tells the story.

everyone is afraid of big nozzles and there is no reason to be like that, the tuning we have now is lightyears from where we were just a year ago. I say 110s and tow powers all day long, high powers and 150s without batting and eye.. but thats just me
 

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larger injectors and backing the pw down on the tuning will actually tow better and lower egts than a stock nozzle with the pw carried out longer to achieve the same hp.

Aarons set up at 6000 feet of elevation smoked less than mike hallers bone stock truck with a tuner, that to me tells the story.

everyone is afraid of big nozzles and there is no reason to be like that, the tuning we have now is lightyears from where we were just a year ago. I say 110s and tow powers all day long, high powers and 150s without batting and eye.. but thats just me


Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. In you opinion, would it be better to do full tow powers or just the 71mm atmosphere and a set of big nozzles? I'm wanting over 700hp if I go through with it.
 

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Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. In you opinion, would it be better to do full tow powers or just the 71mm atmosphere and a set of big nozzles? I'm wanting over 700hp if I go through with it.

Either way its going to make about the same overall HP. I think full tow powers is probably the way to go with that big of a nozzle but i'm sure the results wouldn't be terrible with just the low pressure upgrade
 

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Either way its going to make about the same overall HP. I think full tow powers is probably the way to go with that big of a nozzle but i'm sure the results wouldn't be terrible with just the low pressure upgrade

I'm thinking either full tow powers and 110s or the 71mm atmo with a set of 85s. Obviously the latter would be cheaper and from what I'm figuring the power difference wouldn't be that much. Correct me if I am wrong.
 

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These mod turbos are kinda a waist of money if you ask me. For the price of all the stuff you have to do to make the things live with such high drive pressure. You are much farther ahead just going to an S400 single. Thats just my thoughts on the whole thing.
 

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These mod turbos are kinda a waist of money if you ask me. For the price of all the stuff you have to do to make the things live with such high drive pressure. You are much farther ahead just going to an S400 single. Thats just my thoughts on the whole thing.

I agree, if it was just a toy I would go single s400 all day long. However, some of us actually need useable power lol.
 

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These mod turbos are kinda a waist of money if you ask me. For the price of all the stuff you have to do to make the things live with such high drive pressure. You are much farther ahead just going to an S400 single. Thats just my thoughts on the whole thing.

I don't know how well a single would work on a lifted truck either. I've tossed around the idea of a single but I think it would be a turd w/ 37's
 

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How is it not usable power? im building a single charger set up right now for my 08 and its going to be my "tow rig".
 

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looks like we will find out soon enough. Should have my build done by next saturday.

Don't get me wrong, the single turbo setups are great and have proven to make awesome power. I just feel that the lag would be too much to handle on and off the throttle towing all the time around here. Michigan is pretty flat though so I can see where you'd be able to roll into it easier to get things going.
 

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These mod turbos are kinda a waist of money if you ask me. For the price of all the stuff you have to do to make the things live with such high drive pressure. You are much farther ahead just going to an S400 single. Thats just my thoughts on the whole thing.

Simplicity, a single would be nice. Everytime I drive my 6.0 it reminds me of why my 6.4 will never see a single set up. Unless it was only a toy. Even on Erics X-race my 6.0 is a sluggish turd compared to my 6.4

Sure a single on a 6.4 may work good and spool ok. But at $1200 for a 71mm from elite you can make 600+ maybe 700 with fuel and have it work amazing, spool awesome, and not have any custom parts. If my 71 was to fail. I could pick up a stock turbo at the dealer and bolt it on in the parking lot...
 

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Simplicity, a single would be nice. Everytime I drive my 6.0 it reminds me of why my 6.4 will never see a single set up. Unless it was only a toy. Even on Erics X-race my 6.0 is a sluggish turd compared to my 6.4

Sure a single on a 6.4 may work good and spool ok. But at $1200 for a 71mm from elite you can make 600+ maybe 700 with fuel and have it work amazing, spool awesome, and not have any custom parts. If my 71 was to fail. I could pick up a stock turbo at the dealer and bolt it on in the parking lot...

Bingo!
 

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Don't get me wrong, the single turbo setups are great and have proven to make awesome power. I just feel that the lag would be too much to handle on and off the throttle towing all the time around here. Michigan is pretty flat though so I can see where you'd be able to roll into it easier to get things going.

East coat air. Single 6.4 is great. Towed with erics the other day and it was as good or better than mine with stock turbos. If you lived above 5k feet I would agree

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These mod turbos are kinda a waist of money if you ask me. For the price of all the stuff you have to do to make the things live with such high drive pressure. You are much farther ahead just going to an S400 single. Thats just my thoughts on the whole thing.

Actually a low pressure turbo is one of the cheapest mods you can do. 1200 bucks for a turbo that will support 700 HP with 1:1 drive ratios and completely drop in.

The fact that your going with a engineered diesel turbo makes me feel better about your single set up. I think a 69mm turbo is a bit bigger than I wither like to see for a tow set but with thoughs guys doing the work it might work nice.
 

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I'd rather tie a cinder block to my ankle and jump off a bridge... Industrials turbo is cheap because it's not rebuilt. You get somebody else's charger with a k31 wheel in it. K31 wheel was a big thing ten years ago, but anymore it's just an ok setup. I suppose industrial did their research and opted to use it in the chargers because of the factory low pressure shaft sizes and the little amount of money it would take to get one inside that cover. What do I know though lol

There is another set of factory upgrade chargers in development as we speak that are gonne be awful nice :D

There is so much to this that is false, the turbos are rebuilt and they have been changed as of recent on the HP side to include a larger than previously 58mm wheel. There is absolutely nothing wrong with these turbos and they put out very similar #'s to the elite ones.
 

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There is so much to this that is false, the turbos are rebuilt and they have been changed as of recent on the HP side to include a larger than previously 58mm wheel. There is absolutely nothing wrong with these turbos and they put out very similar #'s to the elite ones.


What's false? The turbo I'm speaking of is their atmosphere. They very well could have changed it up since the introduction, I don't know. I just know that two years ago when I talked to them, that's what I was told. Maybe Premier told you different? As far as numbers go, they make *close* to the same power but the numbers I've seen out of the tow powers are always in the lead. There is a reason why Tadd went to the precision wheel...
 
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SEABEE... does just the II atmosphere make the same as just the elite atmosphere? I hope the price is awesome!

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