cams

[Mdub707]

What cam options are available? The guy who was going to help me do studs/gaskets etc (he had the lift) has flaked out on me, so now I'm doing this cab on. The more I think about it, I may pull the engine out of the truck, and if I do that, it seems like a really good time to put a cam in. What options are out there for cams? I can't see ever really going more than say a 190/100 injector and a turbo for mods. Is the cam still a worthwhile upgrade? It sounds like it...

How hard is the install? You can just turn the motor upside down and slip one in right? (if motor is already yanked out of the truck?)

It's already got my interest sparked here, I feel like at this point it's already going to happen now...

 

[Charles]

Dynos are to Cams what _______ is to Superman.



(A) Black Beans

(B) Toy Trucks

(C) Kryptonite

(D) Red Clothing


C..... the correct answer is of course C.

 

[Breaking Habits]

What cam options are available? The guy who was going to help me do studs/gaskets etc (he had the lift) has flaked out on me, so now I'm doing this cab on. The more I think about it, I may pull the engine out of the truck, and if I do that, it seems like a really good time to put a cam in. What options are out there for cams? I can't see ever really going more than say a 190/100 injector and a turbo for mods. Is the cam still a worthwhile upgrade? It sounds like it...

How hard is the install? You can just turn the motor upside down and slip one in right? (if motor is already yanked out of the truck?)

It's already got my interest sparked here, I feel like at this point it's already going to happen now...

Don't listen to the bull****, you won't be disappointed if you do one. Like I said, half these guys who bash with no basis haven't driven one with a cam in it. I don't care if I see noticeable gain in horsepower and torque, but if I can smooth out the powerband, with faster spool up and increased driveability, how can you lose?

 

[Breaking Habits]

Cause in all honesty, whose going to pull things apart and just do a cam..

 

[Mdub707]

Cause in all honesty, whose going to pull things apart and just do a cam..

Me. I simply don't have the coin for a whole bunch of other stuff, and it would be really cool to dyno before and after with nothing more than the addition of a cam, and finally getting the heads attached to the block properly. $600 for a cam to greatly improve drivability sounds like a winner to me. I really can't buy anything else that inexpensive that has such a benefit.

Dynos are to Cams what _______ is to Superman.



(A) Black Beans

(B) Toy Trucks

(C) Kryptonite

(D) Red Clothing


C..... the correct answer is of course C.

Care to explain this a little more? I could care less what a dyno reads if it actually improves drivability.

 

[Pizza pig]

Cause in all honesty, whose going to pull things apart and just do a cam..

Put me in Mikes category LOL I'd pull my motor to do just a cam, its a weekends worth of work and beer. Not a big deal.

 

[Mdub707]

Put me in Mikes category LOL I'd pull my motor to do just a cam, its a weekends worth of work and beer. Not a big deal.

Very sad that we even think like that, but yeah I kind of had the same mind set. I'm already going to be tearing into it, might as well yank the dang thing out and slap some fun stuff in.

 

[windrunner408]

Correct me if I am wrong but since you have to pull the heads to install a cam, wouldnt you have to or rather shouldnt you take the heads to a machine shop and have them out?? Or do you think, if one has already done this and installed head studs and their gaskets werent leaking that they should be ok??

 

[Mdub707]

Do the heads really have to be removed? Didn't I read somewhere about flipping the motor over so all the rockers flop down (up)?

My heads are coming off either way, already have a spare set of heads machined/valve job the whole 9 waiting to go on so it will be a quick swap for me.

 

[windrunner408]

Ah snap, that makes total sense. See that is why I ask the question on here. So many smart people with smart ideas.

 

[Mdub707]

That's what I've read/heard, not sure how true it is. This is the very beginning of my research on it. I just realized what cams cost and thought it might be a good idea to do while I'm tearing in... we shall see.

So can anyone tell us what options there are for cams? Like, who makes them, and what different models are offered? What's a good all around cam for a do-it-all truck, DD, tower, track, etc...

Also, what exactly is involved in install? Can I just flip the motor like previously thought? I guess that wont really matter if I'm taking the heads off and the pushrods out right? Any special tools?

Thanks guys.

 

[Breaking Habits]

Just the 1 cam is all we run: it's all they need, I'm sure Patrick will agree.

 

[windrunner408]

Yea the one cam is about extreme as you can go before you have to start cutting valve reliefs in the pistons and then the price really starts to go up. Nevertheless, if you must know, I know Elite Diesel has a couple different cams.

 

[youngstroker]

subin, i will be pulling the motor to due studs and a few other thing if it only another 600 for a cam 800 if you want to do springs also why not if it make that much of difference. would you also replace the lifters, or as long as they are good they will be fine with a new cam? also are the high rev valve springs worth it on a mild build, not reving it to far past 4k.

 

[Breaking Habits]

We do our valvesprings on almost every stud job anymore. Cheap insurance !

 

[Mdub707]

What's the cost on the springs? I was looking at doing the GoGo pushrods too, they're like $285 for the stage 1's.

 

[windrunner408]

So does anyone know if flipping the motor over will work for replacing a cam?? I know if I were in your situation Mdub, I would go with the bigger pushrods and new lifters since you are tearing your motor down all the way anyways.

 

[Mdub707]

Yeah I would, except it all costs money. If I could push this back a couple months that'd be great, I only have 2 payments left on this truck! I really wanted to do the studs/gaskets ASAP, since camping season is coming up and I really don't want any truck down time during the nice weather.

 

[youngstroker]

how many lifter issues have you seen. because $600 for a cam your like why not, $800 for cam and springs, your like well some insurance but another $650 just turned in to a pricey mod, but then again with a 9 year old motor and 125,000 miles, i guess it is still some good insuranced.

 

[windrunner408]

Does anyone know if the lifters can just be slipped out if the cam is not in the motor? I know if I did a cam I would want to replace the lifters and put larger push rods in. I am just curious if I can pull the lifters without pulling the heads (I hate to pay to have them gone through again). The push rods can be replaced by removing one head stud at a time, replacing the push rod and then retorquing the head stud back down. I would be curious if this seems like it would work.