CPS gear contact?

[lincolnlocker]

I ordered a second Standard CPS off Ebay for under $10. The second CPS came in gray. The box for the gray sensor says it's made in Mexico. The box for the black one says made in USA. The USA box appears to be an older Standard box logo design. Hmmmmm

Billy T.
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lightly hold a small drill bit above the magnet and see if they both go dead center or if they are off to the side.

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[gnxtc2]

I could see the magnet from the bottom. I put the black one in today. Truck idles smoother. The magnet is definitely stronger that the Ford gray recall CPS that I removed.

I found a place online that sold the Delphi HTS101G sensor. I ordered one, I wonder which sensor I'll get.

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[OBS-Addiction97]

I could see the magnet from the bottom. I put the black one in today. Truck idles smoother. The magnet is definitely stronger that the Ford gray recall CPS that I removed.

I found a place online that sold the Delphi HTS101G sensor. I ordered one, I wonder which sensor I'll get.

Billy T.
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Lets us know, where did you order it from?

 

[mandkole]

As old as these engines are now, CPS product consistency will be a crapshoot. For as sensitive as the 7.3 is to a good CPS, that sucks. Everybody and his brother now brands/sells a part and they likely all come from the same 3-4 suppliers.

 

[gnxtc2]

As old as these engines are now, CPS product consistency will be a crapshoot. For as sensitive as the 7.3 is to a good CPS, that sucks. Everybody and his brother now brands/sells a part and they likely all come from the same 3-4 suppliers.

I believe they come from two manufacturers....the old design and the new design. Just like piston manufacturers, there is one place that makes the blanks and each company machines the blanks to their specs.

The color of the CPS is the flavor of the month.

On another note......

When I removed the Ford gray CPS, it was shorter a few thousands vs the black old style CPS.



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[TyCorr]

I believe they come from two manufacturers....the old design and the new design. Just like piston manufacturers, there is one place that makes the blanks and each company machines the blanks to their specs.

The color of the CPS is the flavor of the month.

On another note......

When I removed the Ford gray CPS, it was shorter a few thousands vs the black old style CPS.



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So who do you think is making them? The two companies?

 

[TARM]

pretty sure, like I posted the pics above, the black is the only one that needs shimmed... I took out the black cps and replaced it with a gray cps and a couple shims I got off ebay, and I can make it loose signal around 3400 rpm so I need to take a shim out... the black cps is longer and would require more shimming.. with the wax paper as shims, I could still run up near 4k smoothly.

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That also likely means the timing is actually changing as rpms climb as well. My thought it the distance and therefore relative time gap would get smaller and smaller before it picks up the signal and thus time gap from where it should read to where it does increases. Again only a theory but I know others have checked and different cps do change the timing.

 

[lincolnlocker]

I believe they come from two manufacturers....the old design and the new design. Just like piston manufacturers, there is one place that makes the blanks and each company machines the blanks to their specs.

The color of the CPS is the flavor of the month.

On another note......

When I removed the Ford gray CPS, it was shorter a few thousands vs the black old style CPS.



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if you look back at a couple pics I posted you can see I measured the two styles and the black is noticeably longer even with the naked eye.

That also likely means the timing is actually changing as rpms climb as well. My thought it the distance and therefore relative time gap would get smaller and smaller before it picks up the signal and thus time gap from where it should read to where it does increases. Again only a theory but I know others have checked and different cps do change the timing.

yep. pops like a beotch at 3500rpm. someone asked what the rev limiter was set at and I said its whatever the cps losses signal at lol.. should be good to go now.

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[TyCorr]

So is your truck still shtting cps now? Or is it parked predominantly?

 

[lincolnlocker]

yep. I got one of those too!




so I installed the black cps with a .020 and a .010 shim and it is still to close. must be my wax paper shims where thicker cuz in this video of me pulling you can hear it cutting out and the cps intermittent code came up. my girl called it at the end too. kinda funny. wouldn't get above 3500rpm but I did end up taking first cuz the big boy of the class broke. and they reset the sled.. well added a 16 foot chain to it is seemed like anyway. lol
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jcxYqnU2lU8#

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So is your truck still shtting cps now? Or is it parked predominantly?

dont know about chitting them cuz it only gets ran enough to test shims and get hooked to the sled. and you can see and hear it in the video I posted above.

wtf does predominantly mean? lol

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[TyCorr]

dont know about chitting them cuz it only gets ran enough to test shims and get hooked to the sled. and you can see and hear it in the video I posted above.

wtf does predominantly mean? lol

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That means it sits most of the time....

 

[lincolnlocker]

That means it sits most of the time....

Ahh 10-4

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[Fly By Night]

In to see if the ordered cps's are as advertised,looks like my grey recall unit needs to be upgraded.


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[gnxtc2]

So who do you think is making them? The two companies?

Don't know. I very much doubt that Standard, Delphi, BW, Airtex, etc etc make their own CPS.

I bought a Standard Cam Sensor back in the for my Buick V6 and it was a repackage GM part. The cam sensor had the GM part # right on it and it was way cheaper

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[gnxtc2]

Look what came in yesterday

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[lincolnlocker]

Look what came in yesterday

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nice!

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[TyCorr]

Don't know. I very much doubt that Standard, Delphi, BW, Airtex, etc etc make their own CPS.

I bought a Standard Cam Sensor back in the for my Buick V6 and it was a repackage GM part. The cam sensor had the GM part # right on it and it was way cheaper

Billy T.
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Delphi does make their own BUT (its a huge butt though!) its not to internationals specs anymore. When the contract was up delphi continued on with production but the specs are NOT the same.

I dont know who makes the other ones. But given the quality of them it seems they could have loosely reverse engineered one that was good.

 

[rusty1161]

Look what came in yesterday

Billy T.
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Damnit!

Rusty

 

[OBS-Addiction97]

Where did the black Delphi come from ?????

 

[gman1]

I bought the Borg Warner CPS last week. Looks exactly like the Delphi one except its grey. Truck idles and runs much better than when I had the new Ford CPS in there. Hard to believe it could make that much of a difference.