juniort444e
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So that's it. Guess it is time to buy stuff and hope for the best.
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Different 7.3's...Van, truck, Bus
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Cat_rebel
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I'm trying to remember but I believe that the driver's side manifold & oil cooler are different on the van engine.
juniort444e
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Well, just finished doing a compression test. Im not sure if they are accurate or actual but they are all between 125-190 range. I really hope this motor isnt junk. Im guessing those are bad numbers for any year motor, huh?
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IIRC 400psi is what it should be at.
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juniort444e
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Thats what i thought. This just keeps getting worse and worse. About to give up for awhile.
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Bud, the problem with that is all the lost time and me and ray bustin our hump to get it out. Im gonna call and tell him its basically scrap and i would pay scrap price for it.
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juniort444e
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As my bad luck continues....
Because i had to change the motor mounts, the van oil cooler wont fit, and the truck oil cooler wouldnt fit with the van exhaust manifold, so im in the process of changing my truck exhaust manifold over so i can run the truck oil cooler to make sure it all clears the trucks motor mounts. Oh, and did i mention that those heads weigh ALOT. Well the bad luck strikes again, the head fell off and smashed my foot. I dont think it did too much but walking and standing isnt fun anymore and is very painful.
Oh, and i have to chang the whole front cover, the newer hpop res is different and i wanted to run all my newer stuff on the motor, so changing everything seems to be the biggest pain in the a$$ and foot. Really hope this motor works out, or im giving up for awhile. This stuff gets old fast
Because i had to change the motor mounts, the van oil cooler wont fit, and the truck oil cooler wouldnt fit with the van exhaust manifold, so im in the process of changing my truck exhaust manifold over so i can run the truck oil cooler to make sure it all clears the trucks motor mounts. Oh, and did i mention that those heads weigh ALOT. Well the bad luck strikes again, the head fell off and smashed my foot. I dont think it did too much but walking and standing isnt fun anymore and is very painful.
Oh, and i have to chang the whole front cover, the newer hpop res is different and i wanted to run all my newer stuff on the motor, so changing everything seems to be the biggest pain in the a$$ and foot. Really hope this motor works out, or im giving up for awhile. This stuff gets old fast
juniort444e
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Did i mention the oil pick up tube is different as well, and the dip stick tube. That is all.
juniort444e
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Are the cams different as well? I looked and cant find any info on it anywhere. If so im guessing that putting a new one in is worth it.
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How is your foot?? Dipstick tube-they pull right out and have an oring to seal. Get a new oring. I thought the cams were the same with the exception of the fuel eccentric.
I know guys that convert to e-fuel dont swap cams. You will have to plug the hole in the valley.
I was under the impression you were getting a 99+ van engine. So its a little more work. But double check your compression readings. I doubt they are all that low. How did you do it?
I know guys that convert to e-fuel dont swap cams. You will have to plug the hole in the valley.
I was under the impression you were getting a 99+ van engine. So its a little more work. But double check your compression readings. I doubt they are all that low. How did you do it?
juniort444e
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Foot is feeling much better. Still feels wierd and standing on it for 18 plus hours the last few nights isnt helping. Ive been up since noon yesturday working on this and we fired her up about an hour ago. Gettn some sleep, then have other things going on, but it should be all buttoned up tonight or tomorrow. Im pumped. idles really rough tho, and sounds wierd, but i will judge that once the intercooler stuff is hooked up and i get new tuning.
The hole in the valley worked out good for me, since the turbo drains the oil into that, it was easy pulling that fuel thing and putting my stuff in.
No, I bought a 95 build date motor, dude said 01 van, but looked much older than that.
The compression readings all read lower than 200, with none of them even passing 180ish. I took the worst cylinder and put my injector in it and valve springs, mind you this cylinder was barely hitting 100psi. Tested it with my stuff and it hit 300. So i started swapping stuff over and never checked the other ones. Just kind of hoping it runs long enough to get the other motor fully built. We checked the blowby in the oil cap, and it wasnt blowing any pressure so i hope thats good.
Im tired.
The hole in the valley worked out good for me, since the turbo drains the oil into that, it was easy pulling that fuel thing and putting my stuff in.
No, I bought a 95 build date motor, dude said 01 van, but looked much older than that.
The compression readings all read lower than 200, with none of them even passing 180ish. I took the worst cylinder and put my injector in it and valve springs, mind you this cylinder was barely hitting 100psi. Tested it with my stuff and it hit 300. So i started swapping stuff over and never checked the other ones. Just kind of hoping it runs long enough to get the other motor fully built. We checked the blowby in the oil cap, and it wasnt blowing any pressure so i hope thats good.
Im tired.
juniort444e
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One more thing, it takes around 10 seconds to start now. Is that because there is still air in the oil rails or maybe due to the motor living on ether?
What should i look for to fix the problem after the first 50-100 miles.
What should i look for to fix the problem after the first 50-100 miles.
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When I put a 98 IH 444 in my truck, because I was tired of rubbin the favors foot everytime I went WOT, I replaced:
Front cover
Oil pan
Oil pickup
Drivers side exhaust manifold
Up-pipes
Pedestal
Plenums
Turbo, obviously
Entire engine wiring harness
Entire fuel system
Cam
Those were the things I replaced that were definite differences from an 02 7.3.
The other big difference was head gaskets. IH 0.050 vs Ford 0.066.
So, is this engine a ford van 7.3? Or an international 444?
If it's a 444, do yourself a favor and replace the head gaskets. Or you'll blow the thing in about 2 months like I did.
Front cover
Oil pan
Oil pickup
Drivers side exhaust manifold
Up-pipes
Pedestal
Plenums
Turbo, obviously
Entire engine wiring harness
Entire fuel system
Cam
Those were the things I replaced that were definite differences from an 02 7.3.
The other big difference was head gaskets. IH 0.050 vs Ford 0.066.
So, is this engine a ford van 7.3? Or an international 444?
If it's a 444, do yourself a favor and replace the head gaskets. Or you'll blow the thing in about 2 months like I did.
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The same valve cover sticker that had the date on it should have either TE444, or 7.3 on it.
Might have the HP @ RPM on it too if it's a 444.
Might have the HP @ RPM on it too if it's a 444.
juniort444e
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I will have to double check on that, but it came out of a short bus with van front end.
