DJM Suspension people

rat49f6 · Jul 28, 2012

hangers and shackles ...no flip

http://djmsuspension.com/applications/ford/1999-2007-ford-superduty-kits/

i will say that a 5" exhaust will not fit with this kit not sure about a 4"

this kit is cheaper and uses djm dream beams and their own hangers and shackles

http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control...224233296225242235236227242243244235232251238

Powerstroked162 · Jul 28, 2012

I have an '08

Lowdown89 · Jul 28, 2012

Powerstroked162 said:
Yeah, I don't want to do the flip kit though. The pics show next to no room for exhaust and I refuse to run a stack, which is what Ryan ended up having to do because of the lack of room there. Rico said his kit was just a new set of hangers and shackles...wonder if it could be retro'd?

Sak, let me know what you have for parts. I've been spoiled with OUO and Cal-tracs aren't my thing

Gotcha, Im not going to run a flip kit either just the shackles and Hanger.. And I'm with you on the no stack thing... Not interested in oraling the coal lol

Is 3/5 as low as you are looking to go?

AllanB · Jul 28, 2012

I used the flip kit and I do have 5" single outlet exhaust. It was a little tight but not that bad to install.
It is called a flip kit, but you don't flip the rearend. All that needs to be done to make it hold up to the high torque is to relocate your spring perches from the top to the bottom. It isn't complicated at all.

Powerstroked162 · Jul 28, 2012

Lowdown89 said:
Gotcha, Im not going to run a flip kit either just the shackles and Hanger.. And I'm with you on the no stack thing... Not interested in oraling the coal lol

Is 3/5 as low as you are looking to go?

Depends on how it looks. If it sits like Ryan's truck, then probably. Im not gonna run 24's though lol. Been thinking a 20" would be plenty of rim on a single cab shorty.

AllanB said:
I used the flip kit and I do have 5" single outlet exhaust. It was a little tight but not that bad to install.
It is called a flip kit, but you don't flip the rearend. All that needs to be done to make it hold up to the high torque is to relocate your spring perches from the top to the bottom. It isn't complicated at all.

Thats good to know on the exhaust. I really want to run duals on this one. Do you think there is enough room under there for it?

...and the reason i don't want to relocate the axle above the springs is because of the traction bar selection. It limits you too whats available. I really want to run my OUO bars so maybe I will fab something up to mount them on the u-bolts like the cal-tracs. That is unless Truck Toyz has some goodies for me

I just want the truck to handle like a dream on the street and through the corners without having to completely hack the rear and front suspension apart for something aftermarket

JMart · Jul 28, 2012

AllanB said:
http://djmsuspension.com/works/djm-flip-kits/

This is a DJM flip kit. It is what I run on my truck and I might be mistaken but I am fairly sure (by looking at the pics) that it is what Ryan had on his. I could be wrong, but for sure the kit he was using was set up the same as mine. He relocated the spring perched under the axle. He went back with stronger u-bolts and I believe he used the plate that comes with Caltracs on the bottom. Like I said, I could be mistaken, but I have talked to Ryan several times to make sure what he did to improve strength. I might be wrong about this, but I think there is someone that replied in this thread that actually did the work on Ryans truck.

I didn't realize the 08's were different. I would run the dream beams up front and a different kit in the rear to avoid the flip kit.

AllanB · Jul 28, 2012

Dualing out the 5" exhaust would have to be a custom job. I don't know of anyone that makes it. If you did, you would have to dual it out behind the rearend instead of in front like the 4" duals run. But it is probably doable?
Jason, the flip kit isn't as bad as it sounds. The only problem Ryan had, was when he put slicks with it. Then the tires wouldn't break loose any at all, so it saw all the torque. I have been running mine for a while and haven't had any probelms. But on the other hand, I am going to relocate the spring perches in hopes of getting the traction and being able to hold it. Also OUO does make a setup that will attatch just like Caltracs. Not trying to talk anyone into the flip kit. But I don't see Steve dropping his truck as low as Ryans, unless he uses it. The spring relocation is the cure for this problem. It is as strong as the stock setup. I haven't done it yet. But I have talked to Ryan enough to see it isn't a hard job. Just install some spring perches and your done. Here is a couple of pics of mine. just to give you an idea what yours would look like. Mine is white, short box, Supercab. Basically the same frame as yours.
http://powerstrokearmy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18110

SouthFlstrokin' · Jul 28, 2012

Why not buy rich's system off him? He's selling it I hear...

Powerstroked162 · Sep 2, 2012

Figured I'd bring this back from the depths....

AllanB, do you have any issues with bottoming out? Im thinking I might be doing a c-notch while the bed is off and the truck is getting shortened

WILD_PHIL · Sep 2, 2012

Any of you guys pull a goose neck or 5th wheel with a lowered truck? I would like to drop my 08 350 SRW 4X4 but I cant loose my ability to pull. I dont want to slam it, but lowering it a bit would be nice.

rat49f6 · Sep 2, 2012

pulled a 28ft camper with my e99 that had a 3"/5" drop
only recombination i have is if you remove the overload springs that you install airbags

AllanB · Sep 2, 2012

Powerstroked162 said:
Figured I'd bring this back from the depths....

AllanB, do you have any issues with bottoming out? Im thinking I might be doing a c-notch while the bed is off and the truck is getting shortened

To tell you the truth I use to bottom out. I got tired of cutting the bump stops down, so I just removed them. Since that I haven't had not one bottom out. Sometimes my tires will scrub if I am on the interstate and hit something pretty severe. But not really a big deal, they just scrub for a split second. On the C-notch, if you can do it, I would suggest it. I might not be the person to talk to about it, as I have never done one, I haven't ridden in one that has been notched. But it makes all the since in the world. The best thing IMO is the ride quality will be much better. You can have full length shocks. I wanted to do it myself but couldn't find anyone to do it. Although I do most all my work, and I do weld, cut, and fabb. That is a little out of my pay grade lol. If you do it or have it done, please take lots of pics or have the person that does it take lots so that we can see it as it goes along.

If you do the DJM flip kit, don't forget what I was talking about with the spring perch re-location. You will definitely need to do this if you are going to race it IMO. Good luck with your bulid Bud.

Powerstroked162 · Sep 3, 2012

I think I'm gonna put better shocks out back. The DJM stuff doesn't sound to be to killer. Even if I notch the frame, i won't be able to add longer shocks. Although Im not sure Im gonna even notch it after talking with a couple people. They all said the same thing you did, just remove the bumpstops and roll on. If it hits after that, i'll chop it here and weld it back up.

I plan to not even use the flip kit pieces and just go straight to new welded perches and welded axle tubes. Also gonna add a Hellwig fat bar out back. Not sure if the front has a bar or not?

Fitting up my OUO's is gonna be quite the task since they don't make pieces for spring under axle setups. Might have to fab my own bottom plate with their weld on bar mount piece. We'll see. Still gotta call SAK and see what else they have

AllanB · Sep 4, 2012

Powerstroked162 said:
I think I'm gonna put better shocks out back. The DJM stuff doesn't sound to be to killer. Even if I notch the frame, i won't be able to add longer shocks. Although Im not sure Im gonna even notch it after talking with a couple people. They all said the same thing you did, just remove the bumpstops and roll on. If it hits after that, i'll chop it here and weld it back up.

I plan to not even use the flip kit pieces and just go straight to new welded perches and welded axle tubes. Also gonna add a Hellwig fat bar out back. Not sure if the front has a bar or not?

Fitting up my OUO's is gonna be quite the task since they don't make pieces for spring under axle setups. Might have to fab my own bottom plate with their weld on bar mount piece. We'll see. Still gotta call SAK and see what else they have

Not trying to talk you into notching the frame. Like I said I might not be the best person to talk to because I have never done it. But I have done a little research on them. When you notch the frame, you can place the top shock mount on the c-notch itself, and this will allow normal length shocks to be used. I am not sure of the exact location on the Superduty shocks, but I will check tomorrow. At worse you would re-locate your shocks. But in the end, removing the bumpstops does work and I have had no problems.
For the OUO setup, I am not sure why it isn't on their site but they do make it, or at least they did. This is OUO's flip u-bolt traction bar kit. It should work just right for you.
http://www.trucktoyzstore.com/realm/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3043
DJM's kit is half ass. I guess it is ok if what you want is looks with moderate power. But for guys pushing the power on up there, and then doing the supension mods to get the power to the ground. It ain't gonna cut it for sure.
When you order your perches, let me know where you got them and the part number so I can order a set.

Powerstroked162 · Sep 4, 2012

AllanB said:
Not trying to talk you into notching the frame. Like I said I might not be the best person to talk to because I have never done it. But I have done a little research on them. When you notch the frame, you can place the top shock mount on the c-notch itself, and this will allow normal length shocks to be used. I am not sure of the exact location on the Superduty shocks, but I will check tomorrow. At worse you would re-locate your shocks. But in the end, removing the bumpstops does work and I have had no problems.
For the OUO setup, I am not sure why it isn't on their site but they do make it, or at least they did. This is OUO's flip u-bolt traction bar kit. It should work just right for you.
http://www.trucktoyzstore.com/realm/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3043
DJM's kit is half ass. I guess it is ok if what you want is looks with moderate power. But for guys pushing the power on up there, and then doing the supension mods to get the power to the ground. It ain't gonna cut it for sure.
When you order your perches, let me know where you got them and the part number so I can order a set.

You can use normal length shocks as is. I won't be using the DJM shocks. I believe they are a Belltech knock off. Everybody says they ride like chit. Im gonna use the factory shocks until i can get it home. After that, I'll probably run Rancho 9000's under it or an equivalent quality shock.

The c-notch might wait, unless I can find one at a decent price that isn't cheese ball. Some of the stuff I saw today was pretty ridiculous. Im almost leaning toward just making my own once I get it back. I could have the plates water-jetted and weld it myself.

That OUO link won't work with the DJM kit. Rear end going over the springs eliminates all the options they have listed since I can't use anything that goes around the axle tubes. Probably gonna have to fab my own locating plate for the u-bolts anyway so I may just modify their weld-on mount pieces to fit on the bottom side of it

rat49f6 · Sep 4, 2012

Ill be calling bilstein for shocks as they have the most r&d on super duties

A far a a notch you likely won't find a stocked one with enough spread to eliminate the narrow section, of the frame above the axle

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Paul@CP_Trucks · Sep 10, 2012

You should have a package showing up any day...

Powerstroked162 · Sep 10, 2012

Thanks again, Paul!

Powerstroked162 · Dec 9, 2012

Sooooo I came to the realization, through no fault of Complete Performance's, that DJM has some serious issues. About three-four weeks ago, we got the rear end of the kit on the truck, well I should say, we got what we had for the rear end of the truck installed. Upon inspection of the kit contents we were missing some vital pieces like the spring plate, spring locating pins, the hardware for the rear suspension setup, and some other odd's and ends. Made a call to DJM and had them ship me what was missing. So we got back at the install yesterday only to realize that DJM sent the wrong hardware and shorted the kit the nuts for the u-bolts. At this point, J.D. has replaced damn near everything in the rear end of this kit. All the locator bolts they sent were the wrong diameter. The spring plates are not drilled true to the leaf pack. The flip kit is a cheap design that I opted out of. Basically, it's just been a joke.

Hindsight, I would have just bought the dream beams and a leaf hanger, and we would have built the rest ourselves.

Here's the bolts they sent for the rear hangers:
http://powerstrokearmy.com/photopost/data/500/medium/IMG_1290.jpg

Locator pins:
http://powerstrokearmy.com/photopost/data/500/medium/IMG_1255.JPG

Monday I'll be calling DJM. They have a great track record with the ford stuff. Maybe I got a lemon or Fabío smoked a little to much before he packed my kit

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