Going to start head studs cab on, input appreciated?

[Hanging_Heels]

And to anyone saying the cab has to come off for head gaskets to be changed, well hate to break it but it doesn't. Some of us don't have the facility for that.

At least some one realizes why I'm not flying my cab. Thank you!

 

[White_monster]

I've done everything on my truck with the cab on. Hell I dropped the oil pan with the engine in the frame.

 

[riemer]

I realize cab off is preferred by most, but since I'm doing the work myself I can't justify the extra ~$200 in parts I've been told I need. Are cracked heads becoming more common on the 6.4? I have 67k on my truck.

 

[Hanging_Heels]

I realize cab off is preferred by most, but since I'm doing the work myself I can't justify the extra ~$200 in parts I've been told I need. Are cracked heads becoming more common on the 6.4? I have 67k on my truck.

What parts were you told you needed for $200?

As far as the cracked heads go, I'm doing studs just for peace of mind and reliability. I'd like to start DD'ing some of the higher hp race tunes so I'm studding it before I run them. I have roughly 78k miles on my truck.

 

[webb06]

I've done everything on my truck with the cab on. Hell I dropped the oil pan with the engine in the frame.

just because things can be done that way, doesnt mean thats how they were meant to be accomplished. ford designed the cab so that it can be removed easily so access can be gained for proper torquing and fitments. its pretty much a concensus that if you have the facility to raise the cab then by all means do it. but if you pride yourself on doing things the hard way...right on :rockon:

 

[White_monster]

I don't have the facility to pull the cab. Also have you ever read the service manual? Every job has a cab on procedure.

 

[webb06]

got one laying on the desk actually. every job? doubt that

 

[tensixniner]

I don't have the facility to pull the cab. Also have you ever read the service manual? Every job has a cab on procedure.

got one laying on the desk actually. every job? doubt that

Yes, it's true.

 

[webb06]

fair enough. i just dont enjoy doing things the hard way when there's an easier way, for me at least

 

[punkrockford]

As far as doing it with the cab on, I am not sure if it can be done or not but I was told by a ford diesel tech, when i asked about it, that the one bolt at a time trick will eventually lead to a blown head gasket. its like using a little part of your gasket over again, (my words not his) just seems like a bad idea to me.

 

[powerstrokin15]

I tried studs one at a time. just out of curiousity. it lasted just a little while, and blew the gaskets. it's a bad idea. I don't know many, if any that had it work. just do it right the first time.


Sent looking at my blown up 6.4

 

[forcefed6.4ford]

just because things can be done that way, doesnt mean thats how they were meant to be accomplished. ford designed the cab so that it can be removed easily so access can be gained for proper torquing and fitments. its pretty much a concensus that if you have the facility to raise the cab then by all means do it. but if you pride yourself on doing things the hard way...right on :rockon:

The availability of a hoist is the issue. If you have access to a hoist to cab up. Yippie for you. But not everyone can afford the labour or have access to do it that way. Can it be done? Yes. Will it last? Some with greater success than others.

 

[JuststrokeIT]

For the slightly more extra time and peace of mind I would pull the heads n put new gaskets on your already in that far it doesn't make sense to do it twice if something's wrong already I got 80,000 on mine and never really abused my truck and it only puked under a really hard load once in a great while. I pulled both my heads cab on with manifolds and up pipes still attached as I was replacing the up pipes anyway if was no problem and put on the new heads with the new manifolds on so I didn't have to fight the bolts getting them on as clearance is tight on the passengers side to get a wrench on the manifold bolts the heads flew right on with them in place and have plenty of room to torque it down properly and never had to losen the engine mount bolts it can be done and it's not very hard at all. I chose to replace anything that is known to fail on my way as I don't wanna do it again such as up pipes, lifters, pump gasket and oil cooler and added push rods and rockers even thou mine were in great shape I don't like doing anything twice time is money. Ford quoted me 4,000 just to put new gaskets n stock bolts on that doesn't include sending the heads to machine shop or anything else with everything I replaced and added including 2 new heads and ported intake manifold and custom up pipes and ported 6.0 manifold I'm just slightly over what ford quoted me for so I can't see how saving yourself the expense and doing it all yourself doesn't make just as much sense if your able to and don't have a lift

 

[Tree Trimmer]

my truck has 98k ish, i think,

i dont abuse my truck. it's just a driver, and a tow'er.

and when we took my heads off, EVERY valve seat was cracked but two.

just throwing that out there.

 

[bigrpowr]

For the slightly more extra time and peace of mind I would pull the heads n put new gaskets on

i was the first, as far as i know, to do them one at a time, and i would heed this sentence i quoted as good advice.

 

[Hanging_Heels]

So I'm about to start this project on Thursday and I'm just making sure I have all my ducks in a row. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remember reading somewhere that I should use something on the threads of the studs other then the moly lube because it worked better? I want to say I remember reading it in one of elites threads? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Thanks

 

[webb06]

They use something like pipe dope, that's what i call it anyway. It's white in color

 

[MINK]

I tried studs one at a time. just out of curiousity. it lasted just a little while, and blew the gaskets. it's a bad idea. I don't know many, if any that had it work. just do it right the first time.


Sent looking at my blown up 6.4

Told ya so!

 

[Hanging_Heels]

They use something like pipe dope, that's what i call it anyway. It's white in color

Do you know the name of it?? Thanks

 

[Fordtrucks]

So I'm about to start this project on Thursday and I'm just making sure I have all my ducks in a row. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I remember reading somewhere that I should use something on the threads of the studs other then the moly lube because it worked better? I want to say I remember reading it in one of elites threads? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Thanks

I did mine one at a time and used the lube supplied with the studs. I think the guys that did the studs like that, then blew the gaskets either had an existing problem or did it incorrectly. Mines held up perfectly fine. I did a lot of my mods in a short period of time and was easy on my motor until i got the studs done so im confident i didnt have any pre existing issues. Its held up great!